What happened to Sergiy Dzinziruk?

The division was weak, but yeah.

 

I actually watched the sport back then. Maybe you didn't and maybe you never saw him him. Idgaf about childish arguing about it. But he was the goods. and he was viewed by many as the best in the 154 for a period of time - fact. Moving up a weightclass and losing to one of the best p4pers is no disgrace .

 

What you are saying about him being viewed as #1 is true. But even to those people, IIRC it was a perfect storm of a couple clutch losses and a couple fighters moving up and Dzinziruk just sort of slid into the #1 spot. He was #1. But he was a weak #1 (very, I may venture to say)... Either way, it was a great win for Sergio and Dzinziruk was a more than legit fighter at the time. Not sure what the whole debate between you and NoNeck is. You seem correct (but maybe you are exaggerating the claim or neglecting certain detail).

 

Correct. I remember Dzinziruk looked very talented at that time in some of those defences, shame he never got a big fight at 154 as I feel he had the talent to get some better wins and be seen in a higher regard.

The debate with NoNeck came from the Julian Williams thread where he claimed if Julian Williams had fought for a world title when Dzinziruk was champ then he would have have had no trouble winning a world title

 

Here's the timeline on him:
#3 in 2005. The division stunk and Ouma and Karmazin weren't strong at 1 and 2, but Karmazin deserved the top for beating Keith Holmes and Ouma

#5 in 2006, Mosley and Spinks entered the divison

#6 in 2007, Mosley, Forrest, Spinks, and Oscar were active

#7 in 2008. Williams and Martinez emerged ahead of him.

He then went inactive, beating Daniel Dawson in 2010, and got his ass kicked by Martinez about a year later. His title reign completely stunk after getting a belt with a decent win over Santos. The only year that he even remotely had a case for being number one was in 2005.

 

What a dumb post! A totally ignorant guy who has no idea what he is talking about. 'hand fed' ", eh. He was german based forced to fight on small fight cards against opponents who didn't want to a big purse. Dzindziruk couldn't speak german and wasn't given the chance to step out of the shadow. When he was past his prime he was free to go the states. The Ukrainian could have been a big star, too, if he had the chance to showcase his skills over there in the states from the very beginning of his pro career. Very sad story. By the way Golovkin was his stable mate and also went down that road but unlike Dzindziruk he was able to leave his German promoter far earlier in his career +he was younger than the Ukrainian. Dzindziruk just had the bad luck to have the wrong passport.

 

He wasn't all that good. A 154 pounder with an undefeated but weak resume, moved up to 160 and got whooped by Martinez. Then got whooped again soon after.

 

He was outstandingly good in his prime. He was totally over the hill when he fought Martinez . Does the name Djelbir ring a bell?? No?? He won silver at the Olympics losing the final against Lomachenko. His pro record is 15-0.He retired for good about 2 years ago,more or less Why? Like Dzindziruk his promoter wasn't able to buy good opponents . Known names don't fight for peanuts . Money is the name of this game . Dzindziruk wasn't a flamboyant guy with a charasmatic personality. He couldn't speak getman nor english. Golovkin almost shared the same fate.

 

He was not a top contender, i have scored the fight for santos when he won the title.
And then he defended the title for 6 years against nobodies. I liked him but he wasnt a top 5

 

which were the 3 top 5 that he won?
I scored the fight against Santos in favor of Santos
He did not win any top 5, Julio and Koneckny were not even top 10, he defended the title against nobodies mainly.

Any aggressive and active fighter would put him in trouble as Vera did. Dzinziruk was an effective fighter only fighting under his peace. I think he lacked heart, he was technically good.
He was super protected

 

This what Lou Di bella had to say about Dzinziruk before the Martinez fight
[url]http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=6200594[/url]


Lou DiBella, Martinez's emotional promoter, has been lamenting the Martinez-Dzinziruk fight since it was finalized.

He never wanted the fight. He hates the fight. He hates how HBO forced it on him. And he's not shy about telling folks.

"Since the beginning I've said I didn't like this fight," DiBella said. "Technically, he [Dzinziruk] is one of the best I've seen. This is his toughest fight and probably the toughest fighter Sergio has faced. Sergiy isn't well-known here, but he is the top 154-pounder. It's a terribly difficult fight for Sergio. I'm worried, but I have faith in my champion, who understands the challenge."

The reason DiBella is so concerned is he respects Dzinziruk's talent and knows how dangerous he is.

"The fact that this fight is happening is a tribute to the type of champion Sergio Martinez is," DiBella said. "In a lot of ways this is a no-win fight. This is the best fighter in the world, Dzinziruk, that no one knows. He is a very difficult guy to fight because of his defensive style, because of his great jab, his movement, and he's a very skilled guy. He's really unknown in this country, but this is the fight HBO wanted.

"They wanted Sergio in a difficult matchup, and it's typically Sergio Martinez's way. Sergio said, 'Put him in front of me and I'm going to fight him,' and he is. He is the boss, and that's why he's become the people's champion. He's fighting the best, and this is why he has captured the imaginations of so many boxing fans."

"Lou and Team Martinez have reasons to be worried. Everybody knows Lou doesn't say something like that lightly," said Josh Roy of Artie Pelullo's Banner Promotions, Dzinziruk's co-promoter. "Sergiy is the best junior middleweight in the world. He's never lost. He doesn't know how to lose. And it's not like he's been protected. He's 7-0 in world title fights. He has made a concerted effort to come [to the U.S.]. Sergio didn't take a soft touch after fighting Paul Williams. He's going all out."


"Obviously, Sergio is looking for the biggest fights possible," DiBella said. "We pursued the possibilities with Cotto and had conversations with Arum, but the fight didn't materialize. But this is the most difficult fight. This is the toughest fighter out there. I said it's a no-win situation, but if Sergio knocks this guy out, at least intelligent people in boxing, and the people who've seen Dzinziruk fight, will know what an accomplishment it is.

"It's just unfortunate that with a fight of this degree of difficulty, that the public doesn't know the opponent. The opponent is a champion in his own right. He's a very, very good fighter. And this is consistent with Sergio's pattern -- from Kermit Cintron to Paul Williams, to Kelly Pavlik, to Paul Williams [again] and now to Sergiy Dzinziruk. There's not a single fighter in the sport, not one, that's gone through a murderer's row like that in recent fights. And like I said, that's a credit to the greatness of Sergio Martinez."

While DiBella stewed over the making of the fight, Martinez, at least publicly, took it like a trouper.

"His attitude was, 'If they think this is the hardest guy, put him in front of me.' There haven't been guys like that I've had," DiBella said. "I've promoted guys before that don't shy away from challenges, but I've never had a guy like this whose attitude is if you think this guy is the hardest, then that's who I want to fight.

 

This shows the seriousness of the note.
He never faced a top 10 in his career until maravilla