What happened to the great American Heavyweight?

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  1. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, and Arod makes 28 mil in MLB, so those figures are probably a bit dated. No big deal though. Also in the picture here is TV contracts for sports. MLB makes a fortune and The NFL makes an obscene amount of money. Monumental figures. The NY Yankees own their own tv station.
     
  4. rorymullan

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    Hardly a salary to turn the nose up at though is it. Its still rediculous money.

    The skills hardly directly translate aswell. To be a good boxer does not mean that you could be a good footballer and vice versa. Boxers become boxers because they are good fighters.

    Are you including endorsments in your earnings or just straight salaries?

    With endorsments some footballers make alot more than $7,000,000. $7,000,000 dollars isnt even the top pay. Closer to £10,000,000

    You say you have wrote on this but eaalier you where saying that football does not have the same lucrative earnings as NFL and wouldnt attraqct away boxers which just aint true.
     
  5. bkamins

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    Look them up on Cha Cha then...
     
  6. bkamins

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    Okay, sure, footballers don't make bad money. But that is really not the point. Heavyweighs fighter are not canidates for European football...they're too big. So the point is moot.
     
  7. rorymullan

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    I agree but I dont think football is stealing fighters from the middleweight devisions. I cant see carl froch or joe calzaghe kicking around a football.

    edit: I also doubt David Haye would last to long out on a rugby pitch. Think hed get flattened
     
  8. rorymullan

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    I think Beckham may be the 2nd highest paid athlete in the world after Tiger woods when endorsments are included aswell. Im not sure though.
     
  9. Kal

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    Well Leo Messi in the season ending 2009 only earned €8.5M salary + €20M Sponsors/Others
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic was the worlds highest paid player last season earning €11M in salary.

    I'm pretty sure a couple of the players at Man City are gonna get more than €11M this season end 2010. Kaka who was on €9m at AC is now on more money at Real, as well as Ronaldo who was on €7.3M at Utd.
     
  10. Kal

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    Jose MOURINHO (Inter): €11M in salary last season
    Luiz Felipe SCOLARI while contracted to Chelsea was on €12.5M
     
  11. Brickhaus

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    You're just flat out wrong.

    1) No player in the history of the NFL has made 40,000,000. Hell, the cap was around $125M last year for a team of 63 players. The highest paid NFL player ever was Julius Peppers in 2009 who made about $16.8 million. The highest paid NBA player is Kevin Garnett, who's making about $25 million this year. One year, Michael Jordan made about $30 million, which was tops ever. Compare this to $33 million in salary that Ronaldinho made playing for AC Milan last year. I don't know where you got your numbers, but they're not only completely false and made up, but also absurd.

    2) If you're talking about the "average" it's a completely different animal. The way European sports leagues work is completely different than the way American sports leagues work. Because there's bumping up and down between leagues, there will always be teams that have low outlier salaries, plus there's just generally a lot less parity from team to team. Despite this, the average salary for an English Premier League player last year was about $1.8 million, as opposed to $1.1 million from the NFL. Average Bundesliga salary is more like $800,000, but a lot of that is because of shuffling up and down. If you compared the salaries of the top 30 football teams in Europe to MLB, for instance, they'd probably be about the same. The soccer players might be a hair lower, but not too significantly, and the median salary is probably higher.

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    God help us all if anyone actually published the articles you wrote using those figures. This stuff can be looked up in about 15 minutes.
     
  12. BoxingFanNo1

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    ****ing stupid.

    Do HW's start off at 6'5 250lbs? No ffs of course not.
    Lets use Lennox Lewis as an example, from 83-88 he spent pretty much his whole amature career under 200lbs aged between 18 and 23. At that weight if he had a keen interest in football he could EASILY have become a football player.

    Stop arguing and admit you are wrong.
     
  13. crimson

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    You guys arguing about Am football salary vs Euro football salary is missing the point.

    The point is that American youths do not have boxing in the forefront as a reasonable athletic endeavor. There are SEVERAL choices other than football - including baseball, basketball, wrestling, MMA, etc not just in future professional salary but in everyday youth participation. I can walk in to any American high school right now and see a kids playing baseball, basketball, wrestling, etc but NO BOXING.

    Not only that there is a clear PROGRAM that allows them for collegiate and professional participation. Not boxing.

    In Europe, other than football what other sports offer the same system thus an alternative to football? There are at least half dozen for American youths.

    And if they don't choose the alternatives, rarely any of them choose boxing.


    Boxing 's popularity is increasing in many European countries, especially in Eastern Europe. That translates to more participation thus higher level of competition.
     
  14. Brickhaus

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    No he couldn't have. Only about 4 or 5 times ever has someone had success playing football who didn't have a background in playing football through high school and college. An 18 year old or a 23 year old doesn't just pick up football and become successful at it, the same way an 18 year old or 23 year old generally doesn't just pick up boxing and become successful at it.
     
  15. bkamins

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    Again, your missing the point. Like most folks here you get distracted by petty disagreements. The point was simple: Europe offers more lucrative pay for bigger athletes when compared to their other sports than America does. I mean, as far as I know, there aren't many natural heavweights that opted for European soccer instead of going into boxing. By comparison, there are literally thousands of incredible athletes in the NBA and the NFL that would have and could have been natural heavyweights. In case you missed it, that is the point of this thread. If I'm wrong about the salaries of 160 pound European soccer players, I sincerely apologize. But again, that's not the point. :-(