What happened to the great American Heavyweight?

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  1. Kal

    Kal Member Full Member

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    Ronaldinho's salary last season for AC Milan was nowhere near $33m. He made €6.5M in salary which using todays conversion rate is $9.42m. Overall including sponsership Ronaldinho made €19.6M last season which is $28.4m.

    As i said Ibrahimovic was paid the most salary last season. €11m which is $15.94m
     
  2. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I'm not missing the point. I made my point three pages ago in this thread. I'm arguing your bull**** lies that you're trying to perpetuate as truth. Hell, you even claimed to be an expert on the matter, saying you penned articles on this issue and thus know about it.

    Your credibility is completely shot at this point. I don't disagree with your main point, but I wouldn't rely on anything you say to help make it for me.

    If you boil the argument down to its essence, there are better and more accessible alternatives available to most youth where the sport doesn't involve getting punched in the face. Thus, less people going into boxing. Bigger problem in for heavyweights America than in Europe because the popular sports in America involve big dudes, while the popular sport in Europe involves average sized dudes.
     
  3. Brickhaus

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    It's debatable. In American sports, the player just gets paid by the team, and any endorsements he has are completely independent of the team. In Europe, the player also gets paid by the endorsers through the team.
     
  4. crimson

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    Must read for those still arguing which Euro football player earns more.
     
  5. Kal

    Kal Member Full Member

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    You're talking about image rights.

    I mean take Henry for example, do you really believe he gets paid his gillette money to him from Barcelona?

    (sorry for hijacking the thread folks, thats me done on the salary thing)
     
  6. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have been saying this for six pages now. :patsch
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you took my point the wrong way.
    Imagine if Lewis at 10,12,14 years old, it doesn't matter, had skill in boxing AND football. That kid would have a choice of sport, saying a 250lb man can't play football(I'm talking about soccer) is bull**** because his weight/height isn't an issue at a young age.
     
  8. nahkis

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    The great American heavyweight is gone because the fighters from Eastern Europe are now allowed to box professionally. They dominate the divisions that matter, from middleweight to heavyweight. The only exception is the light heavys. Americans were dominant when there was no competition.
     
  9. Brickhaus

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    True, but if you have 1000 kids with his kind of athletic ability, 99% of them are going to go into the popular sport that anyone can play for free rather than the unpopular sport that you have to pay to play.
     
  10. crimson

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    Thanks for trolling.
    Come again!
     
  11. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He joined D-generation X.
     
  12. crimson

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    Yes but you don't stay 14 years old or 150 pounds forever.
     
  13. Rock0052

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    What "happened" is the two-pronged spear of globalization and the decaying of the amateur boxing system.

    There's been a number of reasons as to why that's happening, but those are the two biggest aspects affecting US boxing today. People love to point out the Heavyweights in particular, but I find that a bit myopic because most weightclasses are dealing with that same issue.

    As for why more young people are playing football instead of boxing, it's become a case where perception becomes reality- football players actually burn out faster than boxers do, but the perception is that it's a safer sport. The NFL does a great job convincing parents (mistakenly) that their children getting hit in boxing will ruin them in the future but the head trauma from playing football won't. They've done a significantly better job marketing their sport than boxing has, in no small part because boxing is made up of so many vulture-ish promoters who couldn't give a **** about the sport long term and don't try to establish viable youth programs accordingly. The NFL's goal is to have a football in the hands of every boy by the age of 6. Boxing's goal is to milk the **** out of any cash cow that happens to come along before they toss him to the scrap heap for the next flavor of the month.
     
  14. BoxingFanNo1

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    True, but in football (soccer) he wouldn't never become 250lbs either.
     
  15. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree Brick, my issue wasn't with what you've said. My argument was never what options are open to him, a young athletic kid has options, to say 'a 250lb man can't play soccer' is a ludicrous statement since at the point he made his choice he wasn't 250lbs.