What happened to the PBC is finished rumours?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Sep 5, 2018.


  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to rumours Haymons bank roll just keeps growing. This is great news, we got Haymon doing his thing with Showtime and Fox, Bob has this ESPN deal and Hearn is starting up this DZN app. Only one who isnt securing at the moment is Oscar who is stuck with HBO who are couple names away from being obsolete.

    Haymon haters where you at?
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Haymon's bankroll is, because he isn't the one taking the risks as he takes a percentage of every purse for the fighters he 'advises'. That's why he likes to overpay fighters, because that means he gets overpaid too.

    The PBC fund is largely depleated though, as overpaying and buying airtime costs more as it brings in. That's why 'stars' don't fight much and shows get lesser and lesser in quality.
    This deal might save the PBC though.
     
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  3. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "...PBC and Fox have finalized a long-term deal for fights to appear on both Fox and FS1 with an annual boxing budget that eclipses $60 million, multiple sources told The Ring. The deal, which will be announced Tuesday, will kick off in December; the agreement calls for 10 championship-level fights on Fox, with at least another 12 shows on FS1. That’s to be added to Showtime’s existing budget, also estimated at over $60 million. ..."
    https://www.ringtv.com/542980-break...-year-deal-network-will-provide-large-budget/

    Not bad at all. It's good time to be a professional boxer.
     
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  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t personally care if he over pays fighters and he pockets the money long as we get good fights like we have with showtime over the last couple years or if we are getting less sought after fights at least they are free.

    Haymon and Bob are like a roaches, a nuclear bomb can go off and these guys will crawl out somehow.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    PBC so far has succeeded in getting networks like Fox and Showtime to fund it after a period where it had to buy air time to get the platform up and running. While it has done what it set out to do you have to question the business model.

    Fact is they've spent almost a billion to get this up and running and while Haymon has been able to sign a lot of US talent he has no huge stars like Canelo or Joshua to bring in the big money. Also the return so far is unspectacular. The FOX deal is for $60 mill a year I believe which is dwarfed by the $125 mill Hearn and DAZN have at their disposal so you wonder if Haymon can keep things running in the face of such competition. Plus Top rank have their deal with ESPN for the next 7 years for a rumoured $500 mill so there's another competitor with a bigger budget than PBC.

    That big cash investment allowed Haymon and PBC to sign almost off of the top US talent but now that money is gone or almost gone and the PBC project no longer can match at least 2 of it's competitors budgets can it keep hold of it's fighters or will the growing competition see PBC become less premier and more like a minor league boxing outfit.

    As for the investors in PBC I doubt they are happy. They've used almost a billion dollars to create a business that isn't even drawing the biggest budget in US boxing. Plus it will likely be a long time before they see any kind of profit or any profit at all from this investment which when it comes down to it is the whole reason why they invested in the first place.

    So overall I think PBC has been a moderate success. It has succeeded in becoming self funded but it failed to dominate the market or see a return for it's investors.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where the hell did you get a billion from lol? The original fund was reported to be 300 mil, please break down your calculation coz I’m sure it’s closer to half a billion that a billion dollar.

    Eddie Hearn is struggling to sign the stars necessary to make DAZN successful, I think he will struggle to get a up and running. America isn’t taking to his tactics so far.

    I don’t care what the investors make, none of my business long as Haymon keeps these fights coming I’m could give damn if they don’t see any returns, it’s their gamble not mine. I hope it’s successful though especially if they make the necessary fights.
     
  7. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I feel bad you wasted all this time writing this dribble when Wall Street journal and the ring magazine both confirmed that Haymon has the biggest budget in the sport. If you took the time to read instead of being a mindless Hearn flunkie you’d realize that.
     
  8. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Al Haymon is the richest most powerful man in all of boxing and PBC is the biggest brand of all time.
     
  9. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if he doesn’t have the biggest budget, he has nearly all the names except for the few guys that the other 3 promoters have.

    Eddie and bob has all this money and he can’t take any of Haymons guys so far.
     
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  10. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I think it's reasonable to round 925m u to a billion for convenience sake?

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/5/...l-haymon-premier-boxing-champions-boxing-news
     
  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    He can't take anyone under contract without them incurring ruinous penalties that would undermine the reason for switching.

    The acid test comes when those contracts start reaching their termination date.
     
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  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about he took Vargas and Roman. He bid for all the marquee names like the Charlos, Gervonta, Broner, Danny Garcia but so far they turned him down.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I am rather shocked tat SHO boxing's budget is 50mil. That's twice what HBO's boxing budget is. (rumored to be around 25mil)
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holler posted details of the billion or 925 mill. The initial investment might of been 300 mill but funds grow and have more investment added all the time.

    Agreed that Hearn has been struggling to sign the talent he wants. PBC have been over paying boxers, guys like Spence and Garcia getting reportedly getting $3.5 mill for fights. But once PBC can only rely on the income it gets from the deals with Showtime and FOX that will limit what Haymon can pay to his fighters and we might see fighters jump ship as the big purses dry up. They might not all sign with Hearn some might go with Top rank some might go to Golden boy, some might stick with Haymon but I don't think we will see the same domination with PBC having the majority of the boxers signed to them. Will take years for the deals to expire though so Hearn might struggle for some time to come.

    I don't care what the investors make either but in a thread asking if the project was a success or not, financial success will be one way to measure that.
     
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