What happens if Larry Holmes fights Muhammad Ali in 1976?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Holmes only a few years into his pro career.
    Ali slowed down but still beating top names?


    Can Ali's experience get him over the line, or would the younger man defeat the legend?
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali may nick it, the 4 years was a massive detriment to Ali, the Parkinson’s seemingly had got worse by a lot, and Holmes was inexperienced in 1978, and that Norton fight gave him a lot of experience, then add another 2 years, he would’ve been much better, so in 1976, he would’ve been very green, despite him being 26 or so.
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    It would have been a massive fight for Larry at that point.
    Still green, absolutely, but his youth and natural skills could possibly win him this.
    He'd almost certainly give Ali one of the harder fights of his twilight years.
    Could he beat Ali?.. I think he's in with a good chance.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali would be too experienced too savvy for Holmes at that stage in his career who needed another 2 years to hit his stride vs Shavers in 1978.
     
  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    It would be an ugly fight. Holmes took his style from Ali. It would be a green Holmes vs a fading Ali. Both guys had great chins. Neither were great body punchers.

    Ali threw more creative and faster combinations so he may just nick it. Despite me being a big fan, i just don't think their styles could produce an entertaining fight.
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes took some aspects of his style from Ali, but wasn't a carbon copy. Their defense f.e. was completely different.
     
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  7. cross_trainer

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    Green Holmes does barely enough to win, and is robbed.
     
  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes was 22-0 in 76 after beating Roy Williams, Ali fought 4 times in 76 Jean Pierre Coopman, Jimmy Young, Richard Dunn, and Ken Norton and in my opinion he lost to Young and Norton. I think Holmes could win this but Ali would get the decision whether he earned it or not because the speed and youth gap would loom large in Holmes favor at this stage.
     
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  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you want to call anything about Holmes a carbon copy of someone, the closest thing to say is that his defense was a carbon copy of George Foreman's. He didn't hold his arms out regularly in a long guard like Foreman, but he used long guard blocks. He also did the same framing, shoulder pushing, etc. His defense looked a lot like young Foreman's.

    And he definitely had some of his own signature moves. I was always a fan of the left, right, left forearm to the face as he changed angle combo.

    Holmes was largely self taught. I think he just looked around at what successful fighters were doing, tried it, kept what worked for him.
     
  10. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's probably the latest time frame in which Ali could still beat Holmes. It would not be easy, either.
     
  11. ThatOne

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    Forearm to the face is illegal
     
  12. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think 1978 is the turning point where Holmes would’ve taken it.