WHat Happens if Lennox was Allowed to Continue vs McCall?

I dont see any controversy in the stoppage.
The referee completed the mandatory eight count, and at "8" Lewis was falling into him, and had absolutely no control over his legs. At that point the referee has to make the decision, and he made the right one.

 

Lewis did not recover. His balance was gone, and he fell into the ref's chest as the fight was being waived off. McCall was fresh as a daisy in round two, and would have finished him.

In hindsight, the stoppage worked fine for Lewis as he was able to convince himself it was a lucky punch. A multiple knockdown beat down is much harder to recover from, psychologically speaking.

 

That's a good post, why is this even being questioned?

But i've got to ask, 'fresh as a daily'?!

 

Should read fresh as a daisyatsch.

 

At it again
Apart from the inevitable spelling clanger, this is a good post.

 

Just messing mate.

 

I think he'd have been likely stopped later in the round, although there's always the outside chance he survives the round. But I think the ref should have let him carry on - if someone has their gloves up and is replying to the ref, you shouldn't stop it IMO.

Meldrick Taylor was in worse shape vs Chavez when he got stopped, and many people call that a ridiculous stoppage. Frazier was down more than a $5 street hooker vs Foreman and allowed to continue 6 times. So I think Lewis should've been given the chance to continue, even if it was likely he'd go down again.

 

I don't think Lewis was quite as out of it as some people are making out, he did lean against the ref slightly but he doesn't seem to be putting his weight on the ref like he can't stay up on his own.

That said, Lewis hadn't learned how to make the most of his jab and range yet, so he could quite easily have found himself in that position again.

 

oh **** look at McCall at the very end run over to the camera on lewis and point at it buggin out on the first video.

 

What he said.

I rewatched the fight and I believe that Lewis would have been beaten 10 out of 10 times by McCall on that night. McCall was a better fighter.

Lewis improved by a huge amount in between the first and second McCall fight.

 

I disagree somewhat. I think the ref gets paid to judge whether or not he thinks a fighter can defend himself. In a case like this it's simply a judgement call, there really isn't no right or wrong answer, that is unless he let's a fighter continue and that fighter gets seriously hurt.

With the Taylor fight the big issue wasn't that Taylor was hurt, he clearly was, it was that there were only seconds left in the fight when Steele called it off. As such there's two different views on this. One is that Steele was favouring a King fighter by stopping it, and the other is that the time left in the fight is totally irrelevant, because at any point in the fight if the fighter isn't in a position to defend himself the fight should be stopped regardless of the time left, in the round, or in the fight.

Personally for the safety of the fighters, I have a hard time disagreeing with this philosophy, which is why I don't have a problem with the Lewis stoppage.

 

Let's just say boxing history would be very different if every fight was stopped when a boxer rose unsteadily. No-one would consider Larry Holmes or Joe Louis ATGs, for one thing. "Good boxers, shame about the chins."

 

correct answer. the ref almost pulled him off his feet by checking him, the next punch from mccall would have finished him.

 

Lewis was all over the place. There is nothing questionable about it. Sometimes losing is a good thing and Lewis had a great career after that loss aside from the blip against Rahman.

 

Yes, but on the flip side, look at Ali, great, great chin, shame about his health. Sometimes stoppages are necessary to preserve the health of a fighter, that's why I don't understand why Klitschko fans get so up in arms about the stoppage, when the only purpose of it was to allow Klitschko to save his eye and fight another day. People seem to forget these fighters have families and are merely fighting for our entertainment.

Lewis was in a mental state where he could have gotten seriously hurt, and the ref prevented that from occurring. End of story.

And the bottom line is that a victory in any fight, isn't worth the health of a fighter for the rest of his life. I'm sure if Richard Greene had another chance he would have stopped the Ali-Holmes fight much earlier.

As far as legacies go, only Lewis' detractors bring up his chin, and if need be they'd of found another reason to dump on him, that's why they're detractors.