WHat Happens if Lennox was Allowed to Continue vs McCall?

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No question? He rose unsteadily from the Shavers monster KO and his legs were jelly. If every ref made the same kind of call as Lewis-McCall, then that fight would have been stopped.

Against Snipes (not a huge puncher) Holmes is stumbling in into the corner as he gets up and nearly falls out of the ring. He then staggers forward at the count of "8". Yet within a few seconds he has his legs under him.

If Holmes had been KO'd twice, with one punch on each occasion, people would have no qualms with saying that any big puncher would KO him for certain.

Now, Holmes had a great chin and a better one than Lewis, but it shows that history would have been very different if every fight was stopped when a boxer rises unsteadily. Holmes would have three losses by stoppage and would have been knocked out by the two biggest punchers he fought. People would use his chin as a key argument in any fantasy fight, just like people use Lewis's chin in every fantasy fight featuring Lewis.

 

Both of these comments are based on the premise that this was an incorrect stoppage and I disagree with this basic assumption. It certain fell within the parameters of a stoppage being a legitimate course of action to have taken, much like the doctor stoppage Vitali suffered. To me, neither of these are contriversal.

 

Only Lewis' detractors use the chin argument, most who have seen him fight throughout his career and consider the opponents, realize his chin was fine. I believe on thread about his chin I personally rated it a 7.5. You don't get to where he was in terms of a boxing career if you can't take a punch, especially considering his opponents.

 

Brain damage

 

LOL, getting iced not once but twice by one ****ing shot by borderline journeyman is the definition of a weak chin. Period. Without Steward guideance (like in WK's case) he would have more ko losses on his record, remember, pawing lazy jab followed by a telegraphed predictable right with chin high up.....recipe for disaster against elite competition.

Anyway, legitimate stoppage, but make no mistake, his chin is was always will be his achilles heal in a shoot out, no doubt about. For example, he would have never taken those flush bombs a washed up shot Tyson took in their "match" lol............he would have needed mouth to mouth .............

 

he might have had a deniro effect like in awakenings for him.... he would thank lennox and be on his way to do the world some magical goodness

 

Yes, but-

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youve gotta laugh that lewis was protesting that he was ok to carry on he would have been knocked out cold :shock:

 

How do you explain him taking punches from Frank Bruno, Ray Mercer, Vitali Klitschko, Gary Mason and David Tua though? Those men were all harder punchers than McCall or Rahman, and he got hit with some flush shots by each of those guys.

 

Some of those guys are a bit overated as punchers, Vitali is not really a one punch knockout guy. Mercer not a big puncher, Bruno did manage to hurt him pretty good. Mcall and Rahman just managed to nail him good and solid. Im sure if guys like Tua or Bruno landed the same way Rahman and Mcall did, Lewis would have been laid out.

 

I'm not buying this whole argument that Lewis had a weak chin. And you don't necessarily have to be the second coming of Earnie Shavers to be a hard hitter.

 

I dont think he had a weak chin either, but he certainly didnt have the chin of Mcall, somewhere in between.

 

True.

 

Look at it this way, Lewis likely was on the receiving end of well over a 1,000 punches in his career and he got caught by 2. So that's what a .2% ratio? That said I agree Lewis couldn't have taken the punches Tyson took, but then again he never allowed himself to be in a position to receive this type of punches and at the end of the day, isn't that the point?

Not testing your chin and not getting hit in the first place, is a much better idea then seeing how much punishment you can take before getting KO'd, don't you think?

 

Not really when your evaluating someones chin. You base it on how they react from getting hit by a punch. You also take into consideration how solid the punch landed, and Lewis was knocked out on both occasions by very solid landing shots.