What happens if Luiz Ortiz beats Wilder?

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  1. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Paulie was literally calling out blatant corruption when the ref gave wilder time.

    That’s why the tank went
     
  2. Ironmanmt

    Ironmanmt Member Full Member

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    Actually for his age, Ortiz has decent stamina. Much better than the 29 year old Joshua.
     
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  3. sauhund II

    sauhund II Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL,

    So knocking a opponent down, hurting him with several shots thru the fight and ultimately KO'ing him is now a "struggle ", Ortiz had a little flurry, Wilder never went down, never was dazed and walked back to his corner calm and collected.......something similar happened to AJ this weekend but he crawled around the floor when he got hit....

    I have said it since the WK fight, AJ is a KO waiting to happen, he has almost nil punch resistance, poor stamina and poor Ring IQ..Miller would have pulled the trick too.......when you get almost put to sleep by a shot beyond shot grey haired WK who also packs pure glass everybody with a brain knows the gig is up once he steps up to fresh fighters who come to win.
     
  4. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Calm down. Just my thoughts.

    If it was so easy then why the heck is there a rematch? There was no clause.
     
  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    I almost choked on a crisp celebrating Ruiz beating Joshua. I’m not a Joshua fan.
     
  6. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then if Schwartz also beats Fury we could have a new golden age in heavyweight boxing.
     
  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    The fight with AJ will then lose a lot of steam.

    Both have already lost ,one just got away with a W. And very little ppl were crying about the Fury robbery of a susper fight being ruined...it was then LUCK ? lol

    I will be rooting for Ortiz just bc Wilder is trash and trash personality but odds are it wont happen.

    Just cause if AJ gets his belts back means the fight will still happen,the AJ loss just gave Wilder more ammo to keep dodging.


    Had Wilder taken a OFFICIAL L the fight would have got made ,no doubt with Wilder beltless.

    What does it do if Ortiz wins ? Sets up a rematch where Wilder will win anyway ,so it just further stalls him from fighting anyone outside Ortiz. Id still like to see Wilder take an L and bring his self entitlement ego down a few notches.
     
  8. enqwert

    enqwert New Member Full Member

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    Their last fight was competitive, Ortiz is a little older now, but we can't claim that he is shot. Ortiz is still a live underdog, nothing less.
     
  9. Hogified05

    Hogified05 Member Full Member

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    I get why Wilder made this fight prior to AJ's loss. Gives him a legitimate fight prior to the Fury rematch and keeps AJ frozen out.

    But now....it feels dangerous and a waste of time. I mean it's still a good fight but Ruiz really threw a wrench in everything.

    I'd definitely be trying to get the undisputed fight with Ruiz before Fury if he gets pass AJ again though. Makes the Fury rematch even more important and lucrative. Think ESPN and the Fury camp would definitely be in favor of it as well backing up their fight to the summer of 2020.
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing booted Full Member

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    The question really is what if Ortiz fights wilder again - the answer being it will ruin wilders legacy to have a 40something man as a defence, likely twice.
     
  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    Depends how he beats him. If he outclasses him and knocks him out it has to put a major question mark on Wilder's future in the division, and overnight revives Ortiz's career. If he outpoints him in an ugly fight that goes close on the cards then no big deal, rubber match to settle it once and for all.

    I dislike Wilder as much as anyone, but if he loses in a close fight then I'm not going to go in hard on him. Stuff happens when you're at the top of the division.
     
  12. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz has a live Punchers chance.!!!
     
  13. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz probably wishes the rematch would be for six rounds. He'll outbox Wilder but maintaining and surviving for twelve rounds is a big ask.

    After the Joshua fight, Wilder will be sure to put together a rematch clause. If Wilder loses, its rematch time.
     
  14. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Furey becomes the Kingpin.
     
  15. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It'll be exciting times if Luiz Ortiz wins. Look, heavyweight boxing will be unpredictable with challenging fights. Wladimir dominated the heavyweight scene with ease for many years and that's what the problem was. Wladimir's style was not what the general public wanted to see. A ortiz- wilder fight might be a war. That's what the general public want to see.
     


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