What happens if you do a bodybuilding workout without a bodybuilding diet?

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  1. stevexx28

    stevexx28 Active Member Full Member

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    If you Lift weights bodybuilding style, rest like 3-5 days like when bodybuilding, 8-12 reps, Negatives, forced reps, drop sets, and a whole bunch of other bodybuilding techniques, 1-3 mins rest between sets.... you get the idea.

    But if you do this and follow a normal diet, or an atheletes diet, alot of healthy carbs, fruits and veggies without excessive protein of calories.(or Maybe even a weight loss diet?), what happens to your body? Does it become severly overtrained because of the lack of nutrients it needs to supplement the intense, muscle-mass building workout? Do you just get a little stronger, but not gain muscle? Or do you maximize the muscle to fat ratio in your weight, assuming your calories dont change? Im curious about this.
     
  2. Windigo

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    What is a "bodybuilding diet". A bodybuilders diet can range from as many as 8,000Cal/day if not mroe to as little as a 1000.
     
  3. stevexx28

    stevexx28 Active Member Full Member

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    What I meant is a "Mass gaining diet" Protein supplements, excess calories above maintenance, high carbs and fat, eating every 2 hours, you know, the "get big" diet plan.
     
  4. Jennifer Love Hewitt

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    You see all of those guys who go to the gym all the time, but their bodies never change.
    That's what happens.

    A completely untrained person; however, would see some gains in the beginning.
     
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  7. Chris Hansen

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    Protein is very important as it is the main ingredient in building muscle. It completely depends on what type of gains you are looking for. If you lift weight with extreme intensity 3-5 days a week, and have a low caloric diet you won't gain any mass at all.

    Pretty simple formula..

    More calories, More protein = Mass

    Less calories, less protein =weight loss

    Diet is 90% of training. I cannot tell you how often I see people going to the gym for months, and seeing almost no gains because of what they eat. I gained almost 150 pounds on my bench press in a lil over a year from eating high protein foods..

    Decide what you want to do...Do you want to get stronger? (eat more) or do you want to lose fat? (eat clean)
     
  8. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isn't this a boxing forum?

    Anyway, Chris is exactly right.
     
  9. stevexx28

    stevexx28 Active Member Full Member

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    Yea, I just wanted to know cause Id like to know how to incorporate weights into boxing training, Id like to get stronger, and minimize fat, just not put on any weight.
     
  10. stevexx28

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    So basically your body attempts to get bigger and stronger, but without the proper calories, only gets slightly stronger? Got it. Im 145 lbs for example. How would I gain the most muscle with the least amount of fat whil staying 145 lbs. and as strong as possible. Only problem is that Im already pretty lean lol, but as they say, you could always be better.
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bodyweight is entirely down to diet. If you eat at a calorie surplus and lift weights you'll build muscle. Eat at a deficit and you'll burn fat and maybe lose some muscle as well.

    You just need to figure out your maintenance with all your training and build your diet around that rough figure.
     
  12. stevexx28

    stevexx28 Active Member Full Member

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    Yea but will my body crumble from the intense training with no backup calories? Overtrain maybe? Or will I, like someone said, "Spin my wheels going nowhere"?
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Backup calories? What?

    You need to work out how many calories you burn on normal days and how many you burn on training days. Add 500 cals to gain mass, take away 500 to lose mass or consume that amount to maintain.

    I've seen very few people overtrain. 99% of the people who think they are overtrained because they have no energy or whatever are just undereating.
     
  14. stevexx28

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    I was under the impression that after a tough, muscle building workout, you should feed you muscles with nutrition immediatly to enhance recovery. If you do not do this or do very little of this, do you increase the chance of overtraining? or something bad?
     
  15. Chris Hansen

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    Diet has nothing to do with overtraining. Overtraining would be something like bench press 4 times a week, or squats 4 times a week something like that.