What happens when Canelo tests CLEAN & BEATS Golovkin?

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's just that you're extremely delusional and unwilling to engage in reasonable dialog.
     
  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    My sarcasm detector seems to not be working today.:elboinas:
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course the fight didn't seem like a 10-2 fight when I watched it live. I expected a very close decision and I didn't know which way it was going to go. I thought Canelo did enough to get the W but I was not sure if he'd get the decision and the draw confirmed that uncertainty.

    I thought each of the 3 judges showed that they had a different view of the fight, and based on how the rounds were scored I think if anything it speaks to how close many of the rounds were and how hard it was to score. You make some good points joey, and you may be right that the straight right in the middle of the 9th may have been the single biggest punch in the fight, and the most eye catching. Though the uppercuts in the 6th and the 8th rounds were right up there and they were so well timed with how Canelo set them up.

    The problem I have is just giving GGG rounds 6 8 and 9 when Canelo landed the best punches in those rounds despite being slightly outworked in spots. When reviewing the fight, I tried to split the rounds that I had a tough time deciding on. I could have scored some of those rounds even but there were enough distinct differences between what each fighter was doing that you could argue either guy deserved those rounds.

    When you say you don't want to tackle the rd by rd scoring, well you're not going to be able to bridge the gap between 7-5 and 10-2 without doing that. This was not an easy fight to score, and while I didn't agree with 10-2 for either fighter, I didn't think it was as crazy as some people think because Canelo was getting in the standout work. There was only one fighter in there landing quality hard impactful blows round after round and that fighter was Canelo. GGG had his moments, but his work just wasn't all that impressive. I thought Teddy Atlas scoring it 10-2 for GGG was way more of a stretch than having it 10-2 for Canelo. But to your point, I didn't think it was a 10-2 kind of a fight for either guy. I think you have to split the close middle rounds where either guy arguably won for different reasons. But lets not act like the rounds that Byrd scored for Canelo that the other judges didn't were clear dominant GGG rounds. They weren't.
     
  4. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who got give credit to for their last wrong decision?
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh boy, look out guys, shadow's here to save the day.:ggg
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  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well it turns into a circus when you got clowns like thesmokingm and NC17 running around here . . .
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dedicated to the biggest douche around.

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  9. IsaL

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    This should be obvious. Then again, I assume most people won't score a fight unless you're a boxing junkie and even then.

    That Byrd scored it for Canelo wide doesn't change how many rounds can be argued for each fighter.
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I can see how you may feel like that if you don't score the fight yourself.
     
  11. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It's so weird how yall think the effect of PEDs instantly go away when you aren't on them.
     
  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Of course the benefits still linger, however the bulk, shred and rapid recuperation from intensive training do not remain.

    The psychological effect of not having these visible and tangibles cannot be overstated. It's one reason why you've seen Joshua lack that killer instinct in recent fights, because he's had no choice but to get the roids out of his system, due to potential U.S line ups.

    The roids helped Canelo last 12 rounds and put up a valiant battle. Without them he'll be taking down and bodied within the distance. When those over hand temple shots from land on this devil's forehead, he's going to get tucked into a body bag.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most people like yourself are ignorant, you take a bad scorecard like 10-2 and take your ire out on Canelo.
    He has nothing to do with the scorecards.
    There were a lot of people that scored the fight within the range of 7-5 either way, and yet you're going to discredit anyone the viewed it for Canelo because one judge had it wide for him.
    Absolutely ridiculous.
     
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  14. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And why is that ???? Kovalev won both times !!
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    as long as Canelo is clean(elo) then I am happy whatever the decision between these two elites. Although no draw this time would be better, I would prefer one man to be the victor.

    This has the making of a boxing opera from which we will all be maximally entertained.