What happens when pacquaio hit mayweather like this?

I couldn't agree more. Some of these guys don't know **** about the sport and think speed and power are the end all be all. They fail to notice things like pac being wide open and a counter puncher's wet dream.:-( They will be in for a rude awaking when this fight takes place.

 

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You fool that's exactly what a counter-puncher like PBF wants you to do. Become even more aggressive and reckless.:deal Pac would be playing right into PBF's hands by doing this.:deal Pac beats people with speed because they can' handle his foot and handspeed. Once that **** doesn't work then what? What will be his plan B? or Plan C? He doesn't have one because he can only fight one way. It's not like he can apply educated pressure from behind a jab, cut off the ring, fight inside and get to the body. Pac can't fight like this and is too one-dimensional to beat a boxing master like PBF. You *******s better wake up, this fight has boxing lesson written all over to atuste boxing fans like myself who notice things like timing, defence, footwork and ring generalship. A boxing novice like yourself overlooks things like this and goes for power and speed everytime and it will let you down against a technician.

 

Did you see how easily Cotto counterpunched Zab Judah? sometimes unorthodoxy makes these straight up style match ups weirder. I will gladly be woken up if Floyd and Manny actually fight, until then there is nothing I have seen to indicate Floyd or anyone can easily counterpunch Manny.

(I think the Marquez and Pac fights were practically even without the knockdowns, Marquez was missing just as much as pac, but his combinations looked more controlled. Really watch which punches land on Pac next time through, and how many ugly uncoordinated shots Pac actually lands, and I do think Manny is much better now, for whatever reason.)

 

flurries or singles

Pac's head movement sucks

he cant dodge boulders

 

true but Mayweather has more punch accuracy then Marquez & Pacquiao combined

 

Yeah I saw Cotto win but he needed to low blow Zab in the early rounds where Zab is most dangerous to do it.

Listen Pac is too one-dimensional to beat PBF. He can only fight one way. And like I've said 1000 times you won't beat PBF without a jab period. Pac doesn't have one you must have a jab to disrupt PBF's rhythm and to keep him honest or he will just pick you apart.

 

I think what you need to beat Floyd is superior speed and a really penetrating unpredictable offense that is quick and consistent, if you give him time to think you are screwed, he can adapt to anyone very very quickly with just a few simple angles.

I'm not saying Floyd does not have the talent advantage, I just think this time the awkward angles don't favor his preferred shoulder roll. He has to walk down southpaws throughout his career with the high defense: Zab, Mitchell, Corley - in all three, he stopped the shell and brought his hands up. He was tougher and more gifted than all those guys put together. I don't know if he is tougher than Pac. Unlike all his other wins, he kind of beat up those three guys who were all southpaws. I do think that intangible angle factor is going to contribute a whole lot, because it makes Floyd fight "tougher", even as early as the Sanders fight, which, normally, I would say means nothing, but Floyd has been a polished diamond from day one and that fight really really really stands out in the midst of all his other early fights, and the only difference is the guy was left handed.

 

Thats the 'punchers chance' element. People dismiss it as saying Shane ran out of gas, yada, yada... the fact is, Mayweather adjusted and did not allow Shane to land another. Watch the fight again/look at compubox. Shane's output was consistent throughout the fight.

As far as Manny punching from 'angles', its easy to do that against a flat/slow-footed fighter like the last 6 he has faced. Manny has never in his career faced a guy with the footwork and foot speed of Mayweather. Mayweather will not stand stationary long enough for that to be a significant factor. Additionally, Mayweather knows how to control distance. He has a decent reach advantage over Pac and will use it.

 

southpaw dont need a jab to beat PBF ... and Pac has a jab to set up his left hand. Or he can lead with it.

Floyd is more textbook savvy then Pac but styles make fights... Floyd doesn't do enough to keep Manny at bay , and based on every fight I've seen him in with southpaws, it doesn't give me confidence he would beat Pacquiao. Floyd is chinny , likes to defend more then throw, and takes minimal risks ... you saw how hesitant he was with a fast handed southpaw in Judah. Manny will simply outwork him and wear him down, he does too much offensively for Floyd to deal with.

 

All Manny has is a punchers chance in this fight, the same as Tyson did fighting Lewis. Manny will not and can not beat Floyd by boxing him. He's not skillful enough. And he can't rely on Floyd getting tired because his conditioning is just as good or better then Pacs. Pac is going to have to go to the secret weapon, and that is biting.....lol

 

Do you think cuts will/could play a factor?

 

"Floyd is chinny"...based on what?

 

Right. He can throw the left hand all day and FMJ won't adjust. :roll:

Doesn't do enough? :yep More display of your general lack of understanding of Boxing. Here is a question, do FMJ's opponents' punch counts go down? If so, why? Right.

Yes. You have seen him in with southpaws. He DOMINATED each and every one of them. Not to say he is a better package, but you are a fool if you think Pac is anywhere near as tricky or fast as Zab Judah in the first 2 rounds of a fight. Especially Judah from back then.

 

I was thinking about this earlier and to me this is Manny's key to winning, IF he could land something early and either cut or cause Morales level swelling to PBF, this would be huge and could change the fight.

 

Since when did Pacquiao have one punch power at 147?