What has Marquez done to receive such a high rating?

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    1. beat MAB in a clear but close fight. barrera was still the 130 champion that time and was on an impressive consecutive win streak since he was smoked by pac 4 years back.
    2. he totally dominated rocky juarez who gave barrios a hell of a fight.
    3. he narrowly lost to the concensus #1 p4p boxer in manny pacquiao by SD and if he did get the nod, no one would complain.
    4. he stopped casamayor, though is an old fighter, is still a good win since he was going up in weight.
     
  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Marquez is a great fighter, with good wins and some losses under his belt. There is no reason to have him above Calzaghe though; no one has figured out how to beat him.
     
  3. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Pac and JMM fought two competetive fights.

    Pac moved up to Lightweight and defeated the weakest champion.

    JMM moved up to lightweight and defeated the number 1 lightweight in Casamayor to pursue a rubber match with Pacquaio.

    JMM deserves his ranking.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm through arguing with people about it......its only my opinion, but just look at the way the man throws combinations in those clips......
    .....those are not slaps ( JC) .....those are beatifully thrown combination shots thrown with true leverage and power......imo, that and that JMM has a solid case to say that he could really be an undefeated fighter, is what makes him the best in the sport imo!
     
  5. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    C'mon divac you say more than that?!

    KO'ing out ULTRA prime CASA if enough to put somebody to #2 spot?!

    Where's the justice here?! :!: :bart

    IMO it was a shallow win in the sense that the win was made on the twilight years of boxer.

    For example - if pac happens to be with the same weight catergory with RJJ and he knock's out RJJ NOW. Oh Man?! Who would give him FULL Credit?!:D NO WAY!!!
     
  7. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    thats ridiculous....1st off JMM was ALREADY #2 P4P, he wasn't "put" there after his win over Casamayor

    and you can't compare shot ass Jones with Casamayor....seeing as Casa' was The Ring #1 LW and he was coming off a KO victory over Katsidis, not to mention Casa' had never been stopped before prior to his fight with Marquez

    and besides theres only 2year age diffrence btwn. Marquez and Casamayor

    all in all that post is bull****
     
  8. Daft P

    Daft P Active Member Full Member

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    He surely did more than Pacquiao, because he beat Manny twice. Isn't that enough?
     
  9. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope...drawn the first, lost the second:deal cant believe people still use this argument. Stick to the facts ok?
     
  10. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    shot casa put him to number 3. lol

    :yep
     
  11. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    erm simply because he is one of if not the best fighter in the world.
     
  12. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ....HE is the best due to ?! Winning over ULTRA prime casa? prime Mab?
    Salido? Jaca?! :patsch

    or due to greatest achievement of getting a Draw with PAC?!:lol:
     
  13. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    CASA is already in his twilight of his career! He barely PROVED that he is the real winner over STA CRUZ?!

    If YOU THINK Casa that JMM beat is still the old self which made him popular.. GO AHEAD AND FOOL YOURSELF AND GIVE JMM FULL CREDIT!:hammertime :partytime :hammertime :party

    Lets just say.. A win is a win. That's about it! :lol:
     
  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Marqurz isn't exactly prime either,he is 35 and showing it slightly,he gets hit a lot more than before,his defense ain't that good now.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    JMM rating is fine especially since I thought he won the second Pac fight. What I take exception with is the high rating of his brother Rafa M.