What Has McCracken Being Doing In Sheffield?

TomUK · Aug 3, 2012

Are you forgetting the level of competition they are up against as well. They are up against THE best AM fighters in the world. Any of the brits against anything but top 16 opposition would look extremely impressive.

BoxingAnalyst · Aug 3, 2012

Mossley your a ****ing idiot, nobody cares what you think.

Bill C84 · Aug 3, 2012

It is just a case of two totally different sports, this is interesting and although part is sour grapes it does ring true.

LONDON Trinidad's Carlos Suarez, who built up to the Olympics by training with US legend Tommy "The Hitman" Hearns for six years, blasted amateur boxing as a game of "tag" on Tuesday.
The 19-year-old American-born fighter -- who qualified for Trinidad through his mother -- lost 16-6 to Turkish battler Ferhat Perlivan, but had little good to say after his brief moment in the Olympic spotlight.
"The problem with amateur boxing is it's tag boxing," said light flyweight Suarez. "He was throwing slap punches, getting points. He would have beaten me in a game of tag but not in a boxing match."
Suarez, who was Trinidad's only boxer at the Games, made fun of his opponent and said it highlighted what was wrong with the amateur ranks.
"I thought it was b(expletive). It's amazing, these Olympic rules. I was only lightly slapping him on the side of his head and he was falling to the floor, and it was me who got docked a point," he said.
"He didn't want to fight with me or hang with me and I would have beaten him in a fight. There was no way I was going to get seven points in the final round.
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Arnie · Aug 3, 2012

Beeston Brawler said: ↑

Coaching a lad to win an amateur contest and teaching him to be a ''good boxer'' in the logical sense are two different things.

Look at the Aussie lad who lost to the Azerbaijani - doubling his jab up nicely, mixing in some straight and looping shots with the back hand and so on.

What is the point of all that, when three of the five judges have to agree within a second that a punch scores?

You might as well forget the jab, forget body shots and just throw single shots. Because of the size of the gloves, any hook just looks like a slap and probably won't count regardless of whether it is or isn't.... and whenever you can counter, do it.

Quite a few of the boxers that have lost would have won under the ten point system, because they've boxed ''better'' than their opponent.

It's a bit like football under Arsenal/Barca rules - is it more important to keep the ball all game or score?

Some of the boxing has been good, but it's not been matched by the officiating. Though at least this time we've been entertained, the boxing in Beijing was absolutely gash from 99% of the fighters.

At least we've not seen a poor lad lying on the floor off body shots needing medical attention being told to get up and continue either.
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Good post m8

Beeston Brawler · Aug 3, 2012

Your fiver is in the post mate :good

Big Ears · Aug 3, 2012

Arnie said: ↑

Good post m8
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He makes some valid points Arnie, but as I mentioned in another thread seems one of (surprisingly) many who are not aware that the scoring system has changed from the last Olympics.

You question how much amateur boxing some people watch as this system was in place at the last European Championship, World Championship and European Olympic qualifiers. Although I think there's a reason that many who are criticising the amateur system are those who still think the 3 judges within 2 seconds scoring is still in place, these people don't watch a lot of amateur International boxing probably because they don't like it......which I suppose is fair enough.

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