What have the board done wrong exactly?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by brown bomber, May 13, 2012.


  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I notice a lot of you have gone pro Frank on this whole topic which is cool because I think that only good can come from this situation having milled it over.

    Why the anti-board stance from ESB??
     
  2. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    For me it was the threat of taking away the licence of any participating fighter. I also think they're hopelessly out of date and need to rethink how they work.
     
  3. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they are a self appointed monolopy

    in reality they have no power

    they are a boys club

    they are NOT the people who decide who boxes in Britain

    they are going to have a hard time accepting this fact from here on out
     
  4. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Personally IMO- after all their overreacting to the fight in germany to the big talk on the news channls about the "punishments" they are gonna dole out despite being the HYPO- CRATES (lol)

    I think its great that their precious "license" means **** all with regard to saying who boxes in the UK or not.
     
  5. Vano-Irons

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    It was an utter bull**** move on their part. The BBBoC sanction individual fights, not an entire card. They have absolutely no right to say they would withdraw Jimmy Tibbs' licence for example, as he will be in Mitchell's corner.

    Also, they actually said Chisora was free to be licenced by another governing body. Now they have thrown a paddy because Frank took their advice? It's bull**** IMO.

    The whole system needs changing. I'm not sure how an organisation could have 2,000 odd members, and not one of then has the right to vote for the chairmen. It's borderline fascism
     
  6. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whatever the ins and outs / rights and wrongs of the issue, i think most of us have taken the pro fight route because a) its brought all the usual anti boxing, poorly informed 'journalists' out of the woodwork to shout about something that may get them some airtime and it gets all our backs up

    and b) we all just really want to see this fight
     
  7. SuperTed

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    You had a great list of things I saw in another thread. That added with the robberies and general incompetence at a lot of British fights (see the last Enzo fight).

    It all makes it quite irritating that they're getting all high and mighty now. If they'd been doing their properly then it wouldn't be so bad but as it is they haven't and they're trying to bully people who are using a different board.

    They aren't the official overlords of all things boxing in this country and them trying to force people out of participating in this event is only going to get them sued.


    Hopefully the end result is they up their game in the future and maybe listen to some of the gripes that people have with them.

    I really hope this doesn't result in boxing becoming even more of a free for all sport with more belts etc.
     
  8. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    steady on. Having people in the sport who may have individual gievances or issues voting for that position isnt a great decision imo, basically end up with pupper regime that will do anything they are told to 'or else we'l go to luxembourg'

    Franks done wrong here whatever the nuances about European free movemnt of workers, if it was such a good idea why hasnt he done it int he last 30 years?

    They neeeded to make some sort of stand, for PR sake at least, and apart from removing licenses what can they do? Sit back and watch while everyone and his granny starts issuing licesnes?

    I really want to see this fight, and by not giving Chisora a definitive ban they ****ed up, but this isnt situation isnt of the boards making, theyve reacted (badly) to things in front of them
     
  9. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They've done nothing wrong at all. In any other sport what Frank ****** is doing would be unthinkable. It's simply a way of avoiding the mechanisms of sporting justice meaning that from now on people can simply do what they like at press conferences etc. - as long as they bring in enough money. Remember Cantona kicking a fan? If that had happened in boxing, he could have gotten away with it, apparently. It's ridiculous. That said, I understand why people are looking forward to the fight.
     
  10. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh How so?
     
  11. Vano-Irons

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    I agree pretty much with everything you've said. The board not banning Chisora (which he probably deserved for the spit) was a cop out, and they have left themselves open for this. And I agree the board needed to make a stand, otherwise they look powerless. But threatening to ban Billy Morgan, Buglioni, etc because they are on the undercard is wrong. They can say they don't recognise the card as a whole, but stopping people from earning a wage is something they shouldn't have a say in IMO. It'll be them that lose out in the long run anyway. I mean, Mitchell vs Burns is going to conclude with a British world champion. I dot think they'll say no to future sanctioning fees from a world title fight on British soil. It's a baseless threat which will they soon back down from on July 15th
     
  12. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Nice discussion guys.

    I have no gripe with the board- they do a largely great job but they need to modernize and recognize they have to move forward.

    Drinking bans
    over worked referee's
    poor information

    are not good for the sport.
     
  13. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The board are far from perfect and dealt with the Chisora fall-out very badly, but to completely ignore them is very poor from Frank and sets a dangerous precedent. British boxing needs a governing body. Haye and Chisora should not be allowed to profit from their brawl and Chisora deserved to be punished. This fight sets a very bad example, to fighters and to kids, that slapping people at weigh-ins, spitting in their faces and starting brawls at press conferences are not only acceptable, but profitable. It's also going to create a very volatile atmosphere at Upton Park. I'm still looking forward to the fight though. :good
     
  14. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you think so?
     
  15. Vano-Irons

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    100%

    They will be saying goodbye to a future world title fight, losing 1 of Britain's two heat trainers (Tibbs or Billy), and won't allow Buglioni and Morgan to fight for the British title. All because they want to fight in front of 40,000 people? Pathetic in my opinion