What have the board done wrong exactly?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by brown bomber, May 13, 2012.


  1. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Only if you have crazy theories. It's unlikely that, off the back of this one fight, it would finish the board. And they could easily solve the issue - if they had time to write a unethical and threatening letter, they could take the time to hear Chisora's appeal.

    The board does a pretty woeful job. Hearing Robert Smith on Sky last year was painful. He just shrugged his shoulders about all the poor decisions, bad refereeing and terrible mismatches. Is that a good job?
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The vast majority of fights under the BBB of C are judged fairly and well refereed.

    Yes, there are times when this does not happen. But it is a sport of judgement, and as long as those who judge and referee are trained properly and do an honest job, then, I say the BBB of C is doing its job in this field.

    As for 'terrible mismatches', this has been a constant issue throughout the history of the sport. The Internet has helped matters by creating boxing record sites, which mean it is harder on paper for a promoter to throw in a gross mismatch. But boxing is not fought on paper, and sometimes there is still a problem with a match up. The art of matchmaking is incredibly difficult. I think the BBB of C has learnt from past mistakes and does a better job than most in trying to keep to a minimum, 'the mismatch'. But there is rightly always going to be room for improvement in this matter.
     
  3. GazOC

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    Sorry I've not read through the posts, only Jeffs first one.

    For me its that people want to see Haye-Chisora and if the BBBofC get in the way of that then they are the "bad guys".

    I think the Board needs modernizing but I'm far from convinced that Warruns challenge to the status quo will turn out to be a "good thing" for the future of British boxing in general.
     
  4. dftaylor

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    They gave Enzo Maccarinelli a licence and allowed him to fight for the British title at 200lbs, despite clearly being unable to hold a punch. Then presided over a farcical short round and a short beak. Yeah, great job, Board! Great officials, competent as always.

    Add in Ian John Lewis' consistently awful scorecards with no censure or correction and you have no point.
     
  5. widdy

    widdy lancs,where real men live Full Member

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    thats what i wanted to say,but could not word it right,well done you :happy

    i was gonna put ' ****** is a dodgy ****er and could **** things up in the long run':roll:
     
  6. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I'd think after 30 years that Frank is very clear on what will and won't work.
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    No worries Widdy!
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maccarinelli going into the McPhilbin fight had only lost to World Class operators over the previous decade. He was fighting in McPhilbin, a man who fought once at Area level and once at British level; on paper the, danger was McPhilbin was over matched. But as noted Enzo's punch resistance was such that, McPhilbin could be considered as a fair opponent.

    As for the fight itself, the first round was a farce, there can be no excuse for that, lessons need to be learnt. As you suggest the problem maybe more of individuals failing than a systemic failure. But the problems this fight had, do need addressing. Rightly, McPhilbin has been granted a rematch next month.
     
  9. dftaylor

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    Frenkel was world class? Afolabi?

    He hasn't posted a meaningful win since 2007, against Wayne Braithwaite. Every loss has come by brutal, highlight reel KO. That was shameful from the board.
     
  10. widdy

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    i don't know df,he obviously knows the game and how it works,but sometimes pride and greed can get in the way,especially with greedy spitefull people like warrin :cool:

    oh and nice one gaz :thumbsup
     
  11. TBooze

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    Frenkel and Afolabi were/are world ranked, thus classed in world terms. As for wins, Enzo won the European title in 2010, a title considered a level up from the British crown he fought at, against McPhilbin. As I previously stated the argument of mismatch was more to do with whether McPhilbin was ready for Maccarinelli.
     
  12. dftaylor

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    Who did Enzo take that EBU title off of?
     
  13. TBooze

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  14. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    thing is i completely understand bbbofc having too much power...but giving the power to a promoter to me is just not an option. at least the board is in some form not a overbearing power where as promoters are. we are just selling our board to someone who will only let his own fighters fight. it's hilarious.

    the board need to innovate but people saying 3 judges/rankings/archaic/old boy clubs etc are completely right but it's irrelevant to the subject at hand. we cant even say allegedly's real name on a website!!!! and people are saying the board are the fascist state.

    bbbofc's support for getting journeymen brain scans every year and medical procedures. and saying 'fwank did it' is just allegedly following the trends that we all know. he was paying out of his own pocket (which is effectively their own money) because he didnt want to get sued. saying he was doing it because of what a good egg he is is a myth.

    dont get fooled by the car salesman.
     
  15. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    aww diddums. like you ****ing care about enzo like that. i guess allowing petranyi fight williams on a ******ski card was different?:think