A good article from the Boxing judge's perspective originally posted here: http://thecomeback.com/queensberryr...s-and-short-tongues-how-boxing-is-judged.html (Reposted here) https://www.theguardian.com/sport/q...g/2019/jan/02/boxing-judge-scoring-528-fights Apologies if already posted.
I don't agree with this particular judge that the judges chair is the best spot to judge a fight. He say's that from that chair he can see and hear things he wouldn't be able to from watching it on a tv monitor. I disagree with that totally. He talks about hearing the sound and force of the punch, but I will point out that from that judges chair, he's often not in position to really know if a loud smack or thud that he heard was or wasn't from a punch that landed on the arms or shoulders, or if the punch altogether landed on the other fighters gloves. From that standpoint, I think its easier to gauge if the punch landed or didn't land from the tv monitor as the camera angles are always switching over to an angle that can catch the punches landing. ……..and this is totally hogwash that a viewer watching on tv cant guage the intensity of a punch. If one has become accustomed to watching fights on TV, believe me that experience allows one to tell and guage the intensity of the blows being delievered and landed. Now if you were to tell me that a judge who's spent years judging a fight live at ringside all of a sudden has been given the task of scoring a fight from a tv monitor, then I will say that I can see where he might initially have problems gauging certain aspects of a fight from the screen when he become so used to watching it live. …….but you're not going to tell me however that a viewer at home cant score just as accurately if not more accurately than a judge watching it live. Many years ago I put my scoring skills to the test strictly judged ESPN type B level fights between fighters where a judge is likely not to have a bias for or against, and I've found that 90% of the time, my own score watching on TV aligned itself with the officials scoring at ringside. That's proof enough for me that I'm being able to judge the clarity of the punches being landed and the intensity of the blows being thrown. The judge who wrote that article I feel lost some credibility when he states he has a better vantage point to judge a fight than even the referee. The referee has the luxury to use his feet to always position himself to be at the best vantage points to see the punches land, and of course he's right there up close to see and hear the intensity of the blows and even the grunt of a fighter after a punch has landed on him. The author of the article is full of **** if he say's he has a better vantage point than a referee to judge a fight.
Now explain how so few top level fights have 3 judges who all have similar scorecards. There's way too many fights when the judges are in complete disagreement from each other.
1.Take the green envelope, not the yellow one. 2.Suck the promoter's balls. 3.Canelo never loses. 4.Score however you want. There are no investigations or consequences. 5.You can't be fired. This is a lifetime appointment like the Supreme Court. 6.It's one of the rare jobs you can sleep during. 7.Prefill your card for the money fighter, or just have the promoter fill it out for you. 8.Hometown decisions are great. 9.Work out who scores wide and who scores close with fellow judges to make decisions look more reasonable. 10.If everyone scores wide the wrong way it's too obvious. 11.Always have a token chick to avoid appearance of sexism. 12.Do not watch football on your phone during a match you are scoring.
Exactly! …...and its because the 3 different judges at ringside sit at different sides of the ring. For example a particular fighter can spend almost the entire fight with his back to the same side of the ring ropes right in front of one of the judges. That fighter spends almost the entire time with his back to that judge. This judge is now having a problem being able to see if the punches coming at that fighter are landing or not. His score is not likely to be different from the other two judges who have a better vantage point.
He's a shill attempting to validate corruption. No the judge stuck on one side of the ring doesn't have the best view of the fight.
Even the best refs make ginormous errors that shouldn't be made... Like when Mosley bodyslammed Pacquiao to the ground and Bayless started the 10 count... Even Mosley felt bad and looked ashamed.
You've had the benefit to review that fall on tape and even you don't have it right. Pacquiao wasn't body slammed, he took a wild swing at Mosley and Mosley kind of stuck his arm out at Pacquiao's armpit in what looks as somewhat of a push. Bodyslam isn't even in the picture here. Yes even refs make mistakes but they certainly are in better position to catch the action than a stationary judge sitting on a seat.
Try again! Mosley stuck his arm out and Pacquiao went down really from that wild swing and miss from him leaving him so off balance. Flung? LOL!
You really think Mosley would look so apologetic and embarrassed that the KD was counted because it was 75% Pacquiao's balance issue? You can clearly see a forceful push.