What if Bowe had faced Lewis in his first defense

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was true until they signed a contact saying they'd fight the winner of the Ruddock - Lewis fight, then their choices were eliminated. They did have the choice not to sign the agreement, but They CHOSE to and which time their option to fight other fighters was voluntarily surrendered. After that fight they could have fought whomever they wished.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Add the Ruddock blow out and that's my take on it too.
     
  3. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone who remembers the Lewis-Dixon fight? Lewis took a stay busy fight against an opponent named Mike Dixon a couple months before the Ruddock fight. They had Bowe as a guest commentator on there and he talked a lot of trash about Lewis and how Ruddock was going to kill him. Anyone who saw that interview knows that Bowe thought very highly of Ruddock and not much of Lewis prior to the fight, it's not hard to imagine Bowe wanted no part of Lewis after seeing him demolish Ruddock the way he did
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You guys are getting this thread confused with the other one. This thread is to determine how badly Bowe would have knocked Lewis out if he fought Lewis as his first defense of the undisputed title. :hey
     
  5. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe IMO had the shortest peak of any guy rated so highly.

    He had a peak (or prime) of 12 rounds. That's what his legacy is based on. He had potential, but end product of 1 night.

    He was badly out of condition when losing to Holy in the 2nd fight, but still should have won, but for fan-man (or Para-glider man as the self proclaimed boxing expert called him in another thread....)
     
  6. lefthook31

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    He had four fights as champion, and had a few wins after losing to Holy against Donald Mathis and Hide(winning the WBO title) , but looked sloppy. He seemed to get it all together when he was motivated to fight Gonzales, and that was a great fight to watch if you havent seen it, but then he went back to his sloppy self and really let himself go for the Golota fights. I would say his prime was pretty much over after the Gonzales fight. His prime was very short, but for a time, he showed some real stuff, and I think he would have taken Lewis to school if they fought around the time I mention. Lewis was always cocky, and with the win over Bowe, i dont think he realized how much better Bowe had gotten than him as a pro during that time.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    What an imagination! Even Bowe never dreamed of actually beating Lewis.........:lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  8. thesandman

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    At that time, Lewis was only better than Bowe in a few areas. Right hand power, defence but much more important - mentality. (Call it arrogance if you like, it is really).

    Lewis thought nobody could beat him. Bowe didn't think like that. That is the main difference between them in a head to head fight, and career wise IMO.
     
  9. bigG

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    has anyone actually read the question....no one is saying bowe is a better fighter than lewis, that would be ridiculous....what the original question was was if bowe fought lewis after he beat holyfield would he have beat him.....yup, bowe had a ridiculously short prime, yup, he squandered his talent, yup, he ate his way out of contention......my opinion is that in that very samll window of opportunity he beats lewis....WHO NONETHELESS WENT ON TO BECOME A FAR GREATER FIGHTER/CHAMPION THAN BOWE.....but hell, we will never know..but thats what makes debating these things so enjoyeable....
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    Oh well if you put it that way of course Bowe Ko him in two...Actually I'm just kidding, of course I read the question but I think Bowe, who beat nobody of note besides Holyfield, who could be inconsistent, would loose to Lewis, the one who blew out Ruddock, and in fact was scared to fight him. The ONLY reason we are even debating this question is because BOWE REFUSED TO FIGHT LEWIS WHEN IT MATTERED and was under contract to do so.
     
  11. PATSYS

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    Huh? :huh

    Lewis had Holyfield in all sorts of trouble in their 1st fight. In their second fight, Lewis still won.

    Holyfield had his moments on Bowe in their first fight. Then Holyfield beat Bowe in the 2nd fight.
     
  12. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you follow their logic, then Lewis has a better chin than Bowe, because Holy dropped Bowe, and not Lewis - even though he landed on Lewis.

    therefore Lewis has a better punch than Bowe, AND a better chin, so he would have murderised him in a brawl (which no doubt this fight would have turned into!!)
     
  13. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Bowe beat nobody besides Holyfield at the time.:yep Are you that clueless?? Who did Lewis beat AT THAT TIME that makes him look better than beating the undisputed heavyweight champion??? Please dont tell me the great Razor Ruddock who was brutalized by Tyson in two previous fights, and went on to accomplish so much in the division was a better opponent than Holyfield at that time.
     
  14. DamonD

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    Bowe's record is notably light on genuine HW punchers. Herbie Hide is about the only one (I would love someone to try to argue Gonzalez...)
     
  15. Drexl

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    What about Gonzalez?!? :twisted:












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