What if Caleb Plant were to convincingly outbox Canelo

Apparently if you give a fighter no chance your pathetic, a clown and an embarrassment to the forum


According to some

Although i pay very little attention to people claiming the Euros were rigged lol

 

Its a fight im going to watch so obviously id like to see this and be proved wrong

 

Yeah like when people thought I was mad to say strongly and consistently Fury would beat Wilder both times. I predicted his Fury would put it on Wilder in the 2nd fight rag doll with his weight and stop him. People on here thought I was certifiable. You can check my predictions if you want. Even had others apologize for doubting me. I stand by what I say. I do know boxing.

 

Okay so that time you picked the fighter who was far more proven, with a vastly superior resume (I did too) and how does that map onto picking significantly in the opposite direction in these two cases?

 

So what does that tell you? It shows you all that "resume" meant nothing. Saunders and his resume got smashed.

 

If you call an undefeated world title holder garbage who clearly has good skills and is a stylistic challenge to Canelo, you done embarrassed yourself.

 

That's pretty much how I feel about it too, but lets get one thing clear, what I took exception with wasn't that his resume was garbage, it was that Plant himself was garbage. He specifically said he watched him fight and made the claim that he's rubbish as a fighter. Then he started doing damage control talking about how bad his resume is.

 

No.. it shows that Olu was right when he followed the resumes and picked the far more proven fighter (Fury), as I did also.

With Canelo-Plant he's suggesting it's likely to be close, something resumes do not point to - rate Plant higher than his resume justifies if you want, but let's not pretend that looking at who's more proven and has the vastly superior resume wouldn't lead you to pick Canelo every single time.

Equally with Taylor and Tank - Olu reckons Tank would beat Taylor, despite Taylor having cleaned out his division and Tank not having fought a top 3 fighter in any of the divisions he's picked up belts in.


Saunders has little to do with it, Olu wasn't talking about him - although if you want to talk about Saunders, his resume is a level above Plant's. Canelo beat BJS pretty comfortably and any honest appraisal of resumes would suggest he'll do exactly the same to Plant.

 

No one's claiming Plant proved himself against a high level of competition yet. All I took exception with is the idea that Plant as a fighter is garbage, which is obviously mental. I made the point several times that it's a big step up in competition obviously.

But again you're relying on who somebody fought more than how good the fighter is himself. Tank is a beast and just because Taylor has done more and beaten better fighters doesn't necessarily mean he'll beat Tank.

Some people think Crawford would beat Spence or Pacquiao despite the fact that his resume isn't all that great and he really has never fought a top fighter. No one's discounting how important fighting top competition is, but having a good resume doesn't necessarily translate to anything.

And many people picked him to beat Canelo because of his resume. But his better resume than Plant didn't end up mattering. You can have the best resume in the world, but if you don't perform on the night, it means nothing. That's my point. You can cite resumes or Plant's lack of resume all you want, but for a guy like Plant fighting who he fought and getting all those confidence builders and never having tasted defeat could mean more than if he fought better fighters.

 

You can tell how good a fighter is regardless of competition. You can certainly tell that a fighter isn't garbage even without him fighting the best. Who has Crawford really fought and many fans still rate him pretty damn high.

 

When this fight originally fell through and Canelo’s team started throwing around names like Bivol or Beterbiev, I was excited. Plant is a safe choice because he has limited power and probably can’t KO Canelo, and we know Plant isn’t going to win on the cards no matter what happens in the ring. Plant will be forced to take more chances to overcome the judges and not fight his type of fight, if he hopes to win. That means a KO or at least a couple KDs is likely. In a legit fight, this one looks to be pretty close and I’m no fan of Plant. I just don’t see him getting his arm raised short of knocking out Canelo which I don’t see happening.

 

crawford cleaned out a division and is rated top 2 in the next one up. how does that compare in any way to plants situation?

 

In terms of level of competition he's faced and not fighting the best fighters out there, yet still being rated high. Yes Crawford is far more accomplished than Plant but many have wanted to see Crawford fight the best fighters at WW. He hasn't done that yet people still are able to recognize how skilled Crawford is even though he's not fought any real top fighters.