What if Caleb Plant were to convincingly outbox Canelo

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Fair play

    He is a moron though
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont think hes an unknown. i can see what he does, and doesnt do, in the ring. canelo is going to connect the overhand right at will after the third rd. he is going to train plant to react to his feints, then time an overhand right into plants low left hand and leaning defense. plant has no idea right now how differently a guy at canelos level can judge distance, and adjust distance. nothing thats worked before on the low level competition hes faced, is going to work on canelo. and thats going to scare him. how he reacts to that fear i will be waiting to see. remember this post.
     
  3. shadow111

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    "Garbage in comparison to Canelo". lol You said he was garbage and that he has no chance. No amount of damage control or re-phrasing what you said is going to help you now. Of course he has a chance. He's 21-0 and in the prime of his life. Why wouldn't he have a chance? Canelo is a great fighter but he's not unbeatable. You said something stupid and I called you out on that. I think Plant is a good fighter and I don't like hearing good fighters being disrespected or getting called garbage for no reason like you did, especially when he's about to have the fight of his life. Lets give Plant the benefit of the doubt. Sure he's unproven but that doesn't mean he can't surprise people on the night. It's disrespectful to Plant and I don't know why you feel the need to discredit this fight. I can't wait to see what Plant can do vs Canelo. If you think he has no chance then that's your opinion but I think he has a chance and it's something I'm looking forward to. We just disagree I guess, and that's fine but there's no excuse for calling Plant garbage and it doesn't help boxing for anyone to trash this fight, it's a fight we all should be excited about.
     
  4. BubblesUK

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    Sorry buddy but this absolute nonsense.

    Plant doesn't need to be garbage to have no chance of beating Canelo - Canelo is a top top level fighter, Plant isn't on the same level, arguably not even just one level below...

    On paper this is a "levels, dumbass" kind of fight, a mismatch, but then most fights would be with a dominant P4P fighter stuck in a relatively poor division.

    And I'm saying this is simply not true - and that anyone who's been watching boxing has seen it time and time again when fighters march up the ranks looking like world class fighters only to get destroyed long before they get put in with generational talents...
    Clearly you cannot isolate a fighters ability from the level of opposition they fight.

    I don't, and I don't think anyone who knows the first thing about boxing would.

    You can tell a fighter isn't garbage by their ability to beat decent opposition. Being undefeated against journeymen and the odd gatekeeper means you're a solid pro, at least gatekeeper level and possibly contender level - that's by definition not garbage... But it's also a world away from elite, and that's why this is a mismatch.

    Plant ain't garbage... but this ain't competitive either.

    Plant may seem garbage in comparison with Canelo, but that's mostly because Canelo is a serious top level fighter and Plant is a lower level champion with a shallow resume.
     
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  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I dont need to damage control, i stand by what I said

    You just went in to a hissy fit over it

    I think he has no chance based on what I've seen from both fighters
     
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  6. BubblesUK

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    Because levels.

    Canelo is going to present a level of class that Plant hasn't fought before, won't even begin to comprehend and won't have the first clue how to handle.

    That doesn't make him garbage, but it does make it a mismatch.

    Why is this so difficult to comprehend?
     
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  7. Quina74

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    I thought Shadow was a spin only bot..can't believe they come programmed with humour now
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Because anyone Canelo fights must be good to boost his resume and legacy...

    I mean, hey im all for unifying but its a pretty lousey fight in general
     
  9. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    It wasn't a successful attempt bear in mind
     
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  10. shadow111

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    A hissy fit? LOL Bro I took exception with you calling Plant garbage. Plant is not garbage, you clearly tried to walk that back by saying you didn't mean he was garbage, but that his resume was garbage, then you went into he wasn't garbage but that he was "garbage compared to Canelo" whatever that means lmao. Now you're standing by what you said? That Plant is garbage as a fighter? No one thinks that Plant is garbage. Just admit you said something dumb instead of trying to weasel your way out of it.
     
  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Hissy fit still ongoing?
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I called you out for saying Plant is Garbage. That's a hissy fit to you?
     
  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    The posts you wrote, yes Hissy fit 101
     
  14. shadow111

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    The only one spinning anything here is the guy who said Plant is garbage and now is trying to walk that back and making it about me.
     
  15. shadow111

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    Bro if you say stupid **** on a boxing forum, and you disrespect a fighter calling him garbage, expect to be called out for your ignorance. Then you call being called out on that a hissy fit, you're a riot.