What if Canelo fought both Charlos?

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The other topic got me thinking that maybe Canelo should consider giving both Charlos an opportunity for Undisputed. The Charlos have showed Canelo nothing but respect over time, especially Jermell and that respect should be rewarded.

    Whenever we hear about Canelo fighting Charlo, it's always assumed that Jermall would be the fight that makes sense. He's the bigger twin, he's undefeated, he's closer to Canelo's weight. But he's also been inactive for longer. His brother Jermell is Undisputed at LHW, but he has expressed a serious desire to step up to SMW to challenge Canelo.

    I don't know how long Jermell plans on staying at LHW, but he's been incative for over a year now since his rematch victory over Brian Castaño. What if Canelo fights Jermall first, and if he wins, then he fights Jermell right after that. If Jermell is outgrowing LHW, he probably is by now, he might be ready to move up to Middleweight soon, but if he's planning on moving up in weight, it would be epic if he fought Canelo for Undisputed while he's Undisputed at LHW.

    I guarantee you that Jermell wants the Canelo fight, probably more than even Jermall does. And if Canelo beats Jermall, which is no sure thing, but if that happened, then Jermell will be even more motivated to avenge his brother's defeat.

    Do you think Canelo could beat Both Charlos if he fought them one after the other? I'm not so sure, but I think if there's anyone that I'd want to see dethrone Canelo, it would be Jermell Charlo. He's always showed Canelo mad respect, and he's an amazing fighter. I think it would be really epic if Canelo fought both Charlos, maybe Canelo would beat Jermall but then Jermell could surprise him with his explosive combos and capture Undisputed.

    And what if Canelo beat both Charlos. That would be huge for legacy to not just beat one Charlo but both. Would you be interested in seeing Canelo fight both Charlos, and what do you think his chances are of being both? I could see Canelo maybe beating 1 of the twins, but I think beating both is a big ask.
     
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    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Jermell is too small and would be easily overpowered, no light middle could beat Canelo now, he`s too powerful, he has grown into the bigger weight classes now.
     
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    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Neither one of these fighters is big enough or powerful enough to fight Canelo neither has been tested at SMW, they don`t have SMW power and haven`t taken the kind of power that Canelo has.
     
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    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jermall is out with issues. Jermell is too small.

    Canelo is better than both and in his prime would win both fights, and it wouldn't be such a big ask IMHO
     
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    At the same time it might be close.
     
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    It would be good I think? Jeesh you boxing fans are fickle. It's just never enough. Canelo mayswell retire at this point.
     
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    Canelo vs Benavidez is the fight that makes the most sense by far at 168
     
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    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Jermell is too easily hit by right hand counters and has been rocked before. I actually prefer Jermell as a fighter but I think he has next to no shot vs an on form Alvarez. Jermall is inactive and wasting away but the fighter that won clear over Sergey Derevyanchenko could possibly out box or be very difficult for Alvarez in the way that Jacobs was. I would make him a serious underdog but he could be a difficult out. Had he been more active I might have considered him having better odds.
     
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    Do the Charlos get clenbuterol tacos in this hypothetical?
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL Typo LMW.
     
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    Jermall needs to get active again. Get solid and comfortable at 168lbs, then gun for Canelo. If Jermall is at his best, it can be a tough solid challenge for Canelo, but i doubt he would win. Jermell proved himself against Castano in the 2nd fight. Castano is kind of like a junior middleweight version of Derevyanchenko, a very solid guy, to me by far his most notable win. That being said, i don't think Canelo would have any problem with mell. He has too much skill and power, as well as a ridiculous chin and good defense. Also Canelo is a natural super middleweight now.
     
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    Both Jermell and Jermall have a height and reach advantage over Canelo. One thing that impressed me against Castaño in the rematch was Jermell's use of the jab. Previously Jermell had just been loading up on power shots which is one of the reasons why he lost the decision to Tony Harrison. The difference between Jermell and Jermall is mainly speed. Jermell is faster than Jermall which could give Canelo more problems. If Jermell fights Canelo like he did in the Castaño rematch I think he could possibly outjab Canelo and outwork him. Jermell doesn't have the stamina problems Canelo has, and I think he can maintain a better work rate. Then again if Canelo catches him particularly to the body he could slow him down. And Jermell putting on weight to make SMW could slow him down a bit, but I still think Jermell despite being smaller is a slightly more of a threat to Canelo than Jermall. That said, Jermall won't be a picnic either.

    You say that Jermall should get solid and comfortable at 168 first before fighting Canelo, which makes sense, but that's not the approach GGG took. GGG went right into 168 without a first fight at 168, and you could say look what happened to GGG. But I don't think you advised GGG to fight at 168 first before challenging Canelo, if I recall you thought that GGG would be better at 168 and thought he could just move right up without fighting someone at 168 first. It's possible that Jermall has gained weight over the last 2 years and is actually a SMW now. I don't think he needs a tune-up at 168, I think he could go right into it. He could fight Boo Boo first, but that's not an easy fight, and if he loses he could lose the opportunity to fight Canelo. The fact is that Canelo needs an opponent for September. I think what'll happen is he'll offer the fight to Jermall, and it would be difficult for Jermall to say no to that opportunity. But if he does say no, and chooses to fight a tune-up first or Boo Boo instead, then maybe Canelo would have no other options than to fight Benavidez next. We'll see, it should be interesting.
     
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    I honestly don't think it does much for his career. At this point he's accomplished a lot and will go down as an ATG regardless of fights with the Charlos or Benavidez. His ATG ranking goes way higher if he beats Bivol and Beterbiev though..
     
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