What if foreman was not allowed to push back frazier?

I think it might have gone another round or two but ultimately it would have gone the same way.

Trying to fight Foreman Frazier style must have been like trying to fight a brick wall while a wrecking ball is swinging through it from the other side.

 

The way Frazier was then he was a sitting duck. He could not fight at long range anymore so all George had to do was draw a line in the floor and know Frazier could not reach him.

After the first Ali fight Frazier had to walk all the way up to a guy before he would punch. Both Daniels and Stander wobbled him. Before he could time even Ali at range.

 

His chin would have made contact with Foreman's fists eventually.

 

Frazier couldnt fight at long range at any time in his career he had to close the distance.
Foreman didnt care where Frazier was because he knew that before Frazier was in range to hit him he was bashing the **** out of him with his own punches,and once Frazier got inside Foreman's uppercuts would quickly discombobulate him.
Daniels didn't wobble Frazier. And Stander, if he connected was always likely to do so. The problem with Stander was he was too slow and crude to win a shoot out with a faster, defensively better swarmer.
The best Frazier that ever fought gets comprehensively dismantled by Foreman and others of that ilk ,ie Liston, Lewis, most probably Bowe,and possibly Wlad and Vitali

.It isnt a traducement of Frazier it's just that his physical stature and his style mean that large heavy-punching bombers take him out.

We go over and over and round and round with this on this Forum but that is the God's truth as I see it.atsch

 

Vitali's a nothing puncher.

 

yet he mysteriously happens to be the HW champion with the highest KO%

 

His power is certainly overated but his physical advantages over Marciano may well be too extreme for the comparatively tiny Marciano to overcome.

 

I think his power is overated, but he can dig a bit or could ,a couple of years back he appeared to lose his velocity in his last fights.

 

No mystery here; an overwhelmingly number of shitty, overmatched opponents will generally produce a high percentage of stoppage victories. It's worth noting that Vitali typically clubbed these fighters down through an accumulation of shots rather than producing clean, definitive knockouts.


When I think of Frazier fighting Vitali, I'm reminded of how much of a clumsy, uncoordinated stiff he was made to look against Byrd. Frazier's a totally different style, but a very difficult fighter to catch cleanly on a consistent basis with his constant head movement.

 

It may have made a difference but Joe was fat and out of shape . Very surprising Joe wasn't in better shape for this fight. Obviously didn't think highly of George.

 

I don't know that Daniels wobbled Joe but he did show good form and landed one very nice right uppercut on Joe's noggin.

 

Check the Boone kirkman fight.

 

Would have made little or no difference to the outcome. Foreman's blows would still have been crashing into Frazier's head and chin

 

Daniels was an unrated ham and egger who had no business anwhere near a title shot.
I think we know Frazier was very vulnerable to the uppercut.