What if George Foreman beat Muhammed Ali during the rumble in the jungle?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What if George Foreman beat Muhammed Ali during the rumble in the jungle? How would George Foreman’s career turn out?
     
  2. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would have had a softie defense and then the Frazier rematch. Nobody was buying a Norton rematch with Foreman back then. And depending on the manner Ali lost the Zaire fight, there may or may not have been an Ali rematch. So now we are into late 1976 or perhaps 1977 if there is a softie fight in between the rematches.
     
  3. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he beat Ali the only other hwt that could beat him was Jimmy Young.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry Mark but George was so far off winning i can't entertain it. What if Ken Norton beat Foreman?
     
  5. JamesFosterGB

    JamesFosterGB New Member Full Member

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    There would have been a Shaver match up in there. And then 78 or 79 we would have seen Holmes. There would not have been a comeback. He probably may have still become a preacher after he retired. There would have been no grill.
    Life worked out a lot better for him than Muhammed Ali.
     
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  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A confident G.Foreman Probably has quite a few title defenses and goes undefeated until L.Holmes . Holmes could sneak by over confident and under prepared version of G.Foreman and win the championship.
     
  7. HOUDINI

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    Certainly a bit later on in the 70’s Holmes could have done the job. Young however would have probably gotten his title shot first.
     
  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Active Member Full Member

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    I think 1980 Larry would have stopped 1972 George; the right hand was more powerful (if not quite as twisty and accurate) as Ali's and his hand speed was very close. Larry would have outboxed him one hell of a lot easier than Morrison, and that much heavier jab would have had George in fits. Once the overhand right starts getting loaded up from Holmes it's only a matter of time. Holmes by 10 round kayo.

    Larry in 1978 wasn't quite into his own style and peak yet, there was still a massive 60's Ali influence. So had George held the title (and somehow missed Young on the way) I think Larry would have decisioned him...but George would have looked worse than Norton after that fight.
     
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  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Active Member Full Member

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    I should mention, John was right in my case...to me Ali was in control of that fight from the beginning. When GF says "Ali had my number" it's true, Ali had already thoroughly figured out Foreman's fighting approach before the actual fight.

    Just as Ali may never have off-paper beaten Norton, or Holyfield Bowe, I just don't see a scenario where Foreman beats Ali.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Try as I might ,I just can't see a scenario where Ali loses to Foreman .Ali s ring IQ was waay above George s ,he calculated Foreman s move s to a T . Unless Ali decided he was bored and walked out there's no way he doesn't beat him !
     
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    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well for starters he would immediately fought Chuck Wepner who was promised the winner between Ali vs Foreman. But a Frazier rematch, perhaps a fight with Lyle or Shavers would have been in the works. He likely would have ruled until he met Young on an off night or Holmes who would have ended his reign.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes and George were the same age, they would have met after all the top 5 contenders fought George.
     
  13. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali was just too tough both mentally and physically for Foreman to conquer. Ali was in danger in round one of their fight. From round 2 onward he was basically in control even as he languished along the ropes.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman was better at cutting the ring off than Bowe, Ali commented on his ability to cut him off, Bowe showed none of that ability v a lesser version of Ali in Hide, Bowe was far too easy to hit to fight someone with Ali`s hand speed, he`d get countered all night with ease.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He also showed a great chin at times also in that bout.