What If: JACK DEMPSEY vs. JOE LOUIS

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Caelum, Aug 15, 2010.


  1. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    I'm with you!! :good:good
     
  2. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People always bring up the Godoy fight specifically. However, they forget Louis won that first fight. And, adapted and destroyed Godoy in the rematch. Why do people overlook the rematch?
    Because it doesn't serve their purpose.

    And even if he didn't like swarmers, well, who really does?
    Fighters don't tend to like any opponent that will give them a little more difficulty but that doesn't mean they can't handle it. Louis proved he could handle it.
     
  3. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Caelum, I posted that Godoy lasted with joe Louis 15 rds Feb 9,1940, and 8 rds June 20,1940, before Louis stopped him..Where was I wrong ?
    I guarantee that tough as Aruro Godoy was [I saw him later on in Stillmans Gym], he would have NEVER survived 23 rounds with the
    prime Jack Dempsey..Never....
    Caelum, I have no purpose to serve, only what I fervently believe...
    Dempsey would have eaten up Arturo Godoy and spit him out much
    quicker than the more methodical, but equally great Joe Louis...It is
    style that makes fights, and in the trenches prime Dempsey was a KILLER.
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Forget Godoy...Who did Jack Dempsey ever beat that even remotely compares to Joe Louis in Jab, Fundamentals, and Punching abilities?

    If Louis had fought during Dempsey's time, Jack would not even have fought him. He would have ducked him for 7 years and fought softies instead.


    Amazing how people are trying to cherrypick Louis' "struggles" in his far superior opposition as evidence Dempsey would beat him, when dempsey himself never beat anyone even close to Joe Louis as a fighter or puncher. Dempsey is extremely unproven because of his limited opposition and refusal to fight top fighters.
     
  5. gentleman jim

    gentleman jim gentleman jim Full Member

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    Between rounds 1&3 Dempsey is favored. After that it's all Louis. Jack's best chance is an early KO which is a definite possibility but the longer the fight goes on Louis' chances increase dramatically. This war does not go the distance by the way. 5 or 6 rounds and that's about it. Once Joe begins to time Jack's advances his pinpoint accuracy and power win the day...If he makes out of the first few rounds.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes they fell out big time and that should be taken into account when evaluating Haye's opinion,imo.
     
  7. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But he sort of has a point, doesnt he? I sway so massively on Dempsey. At first i never rated him that highly, then i rated him very highly, always back and forth. Some on here will crucify my, but at the present time, if i did a list, i think he might be much closer to no 20 than to no 1.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    After getting off the canvas,himself Louis would stop Dempsey by the time five rounds were up.
     
  9. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This would be the greatest HW bout ever, i think Joe wins but i wiuldnt be surprised if Jack KO'd him.
     
  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I thought "hype" was an abbreviation of hyperbole.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    There is absolutely no evidence to support the assertion that the word originated with Igoe ,it is beleived to be an abbreviation of hyperbole ,and ,also possibly slang for hypodermic.

    Just to clarify.

    Igoe was nicknamed Hype because he was so thin he resembled a hypodermic syringe. Hype itself comes from hyperbole.
     
  12. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I came across some Schmelling articles from his younger days and found it very, very interesting that Max Schmelling was considered a Dempsey clone (not as good). Is it therefore pretty much accepted the young and overconfident louis who liked to skip training a bit?
     
  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    louis by ko over one of boxings most over rated fighters.not even close !!
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If this fight was going up on pay per view tonight, I would want my money on Louis, but I would not go into the fight with any sense that my money was safe.