What if Johnson and Jeffries

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by psychoshane, Dec 1, 2010.


  1. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mendoza, do you have any link to Smith's post? It would be really interesting to read.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    We are just building up the gate.:good
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Yes it would, especially if it states Johnson deliberately fouled Jeannette to save himself from defeat.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Why? This is a prime example of why anyone using newspaper reports isn't automatically correct. You have read a post by Kevin Smith which you have chosen to embrace fully, and a newspaper report properly referenced which you have chosen to ignore.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I haven't read Smith's report and honestly don't know who is right .I am concerned however with Mendoza's allegation that Johnson fouled out to save himself from defeat.
    "Johnson was hurt in round one, and went low in round two unpurpose"
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Hey *******, where did i says the johnson vs. Mcvey matches were close? I only recall saying johnson only scored one ko in all his matches vs. Mcvey, Jeanette, and Langford. So me where i said johnson vs. Mcvey matches were close in this thread.

    Unlike your sorry self who only opts to cherry pick regurgitated passages from books, i actually do some research and watch films not aired by television networks.

    I will wager your board existence that Jeanette did in fact work Johnson over in round one, then Johnson went low in round two, which is why the fight was a dq. Somehow Johnson who fought dirty kept his colored title despite losing round one bad, then going low in round two.

    Now wager me your existence, or go **** yourself.

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    You must be dense. 1st I did not say McVey vs Johnson was close. Secondly, If you read what wrote here, I said Johnson lost round one, then went low in round two. Stop making up lies.

    Show me where I said Johnson vs. McVey was close.

    Now *******, I have the report ( Boston Daily Globe ) which clearly stated Jeanette won round one, and Johnson clearly went low in round two.

    The report also says Jeanette was much lighter, and shorter. So we have a green fighter, shorter, and lighter wining, then Johnson goes low. I am having a format issue right now, but rest assured you will see the news article.
     
  7. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think Johnson would have had a harder time, but still been the victor. Probably a decision win. Jeffries himself was quoted as saying "I don't think I could have ever beat Johnson."
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There seems to be a size and age difference here but that does not mean much much because the small older guys have been winning lately. But if Mendoza is 4 inches taller and 20 yrs younger than McVey then it would be fair if McVey let his 6"6 240lbs 20 yr. old nephew Rocco substitute against Mendoza, for shits and giggles.

    On another note there is no reason to go through with this, someone may get shot...besides we are not looking to make this another "Hatfield vs the McVeys" situation
     
  9. prime vs prime i think that johnson still would have won, but it would have been a much more competitive fight
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    this.

    by the way, can we have an "internet tough guy" forum so as to not have to sift through all ***gy banter polluting these threads?
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Sure we can ,why don't you start it ? That will be two threads you have initiated then.:good
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have initiated quite a few threads. Not sure I get your meaning.
     
  13. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly, this quote is like someone, five or seven years from now (2010), writing a pro-Holmes article in which they claim Ali privately told people, just after loosing to Holmes, that even at his best he could never have beaten Holmes -- yet somehow the alleged Ali-quote had never seen the light of printed day for thirty-five years. Would you take such an assertion seriously?

    Unless someone can find a citation for "I could have never beaten Johnson even at my best" fairly near 1910, I don't see why this 'quote' should be granted much credibility.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Don't worry about it.:good