What if Liston beat Ali the first time?

Touche. I reckon he'd reign supreme for a sustained period, boxing corruption not withstanding (and no Ali rematch)

 

Q wakes up with wet stuff on the covers.

 

He loses in his next defence, to George Chuvalo.

 

Gavin Rees' grandad, Bobby 'ass crease' Rees beats him in his next fight.

 

i second unforgivin . Liston folds unde chavalo unless he can bust him up good

 

Once a champion looses his hunger and focus there is always sombody out there waiting to take him.

 

Yeah. As much as I liked Sonny, I don't think his title reign would have been long, even if Muhammad Ali had never been born.

 

........ even in the weird parallel universe where he beats Ali ?

 

He could have won had Ali/Clay quit before the start of the 5th as he almost did. Liston may have made a couple of more defenses, but his reign might have ended at the hands of someone like Ernie Terrell, his former sparring partner, much like Leotis Martin was. Liston was no longer at his best and a guy like Terrell could have taken him into the late rounds, with Liston fading though not necessarily being stopped as Terrell was not a big puncher.

 

If Liston had been good enough to have beaten Ali,he'd have probably held the title for another four years,until he fought Joe Frazier or Jimmy Ellis.

 

Someone would've gotten him, Ellis, Frazier, maybe Bonavena.