What if Mancini quits on his stool after the 8th against Deuk Koo Kim?

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  1. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kim may have defended the title once or twice against medicore challengers but would have soon lost if/when he foght one of the best in the division again like Rosario or Mancini in a rematch.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    I doubt it occurred prior to the eighth round. But there wasn't the technology to discover minor broken vessels in the early 80s like there was 25 years later when Mesi was fighting.
     
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    He probably doesn't become a math teacher.
     
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  4. christpuncher

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    No. Kim was an excellent fighter and apart from Mancini there weren't that many around at that time who would have stopped him.
     
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    Great post
     
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  7. Roughhouse

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    Deuk Koo's win over his highly regarded namesake notwithstanding, it's hard to get a true gauge on his talents outside of the Mancini fight and it would seem it would depend on how you saw Mancini circa 1982. I think he was better then than what he is remembered as being. He pitched a shutout over Jose Luis Ramirez, who was later became a credible champion, and was neck and neck if not slightly ahead against ATG prime Arguello.

    Kim was incredibly conditioned and determined, but I would argue subtly skilled too and would be a handful for the middle of the pack contenders mentioned above. Mancini talked about how Kim strategically kept lower in the tranches and negated his leverage and that he was formidable technically.

    What I find mystifying about the fight is how Kim got ranked #1 and why Mancini's people took the fight. He said he watched tapes of Kim when they were in the discussion stage and verbalized that he was a terrible matchup being a relentless southpaw who was rock solid and that he "relented" to accept the fight. I don't know why the WBA bounced Kim up to #1 irregardless of his talents as he wasn't backed by a powerful syndicate or from a country aligned with them traditionally. The whole thing is strange to me.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    The positive thing about sanctioning bodies (and there aren't a lot) is you don't have to have a powerful promoter to get ranked. You can win regional titles and get ranked.

    Kim won the Oriental Pacific Boxing Federation Lightweight title. Fighters who won OPBF belts routinely got world title shots, particularly back then.

    Kim fought Mancini. Jun Suk Hwang fought Donald Curry for the vacant WBA welterweight title. In Chul Baek fought Julian Jackson for the vacant WBA Super Welterweight title. Chong Pal Park fought Murray Sutherland for the vacant IBF Super Middleweight title. They were all OPBF champs. It was a steppingstone to a world title shot for Asian fighters.
     
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  9. Ike-Man

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    I highly doubt that.
     
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  10. Titan1

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    Kim would have defended against a couple of lesser lights, but once he meets up with Davis Jr, Gato Gonzales, or Mancini in a rematch, it's a wrap. Probably would have made a couple of million from defenses before losing the belt.
     
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