What if Manny Pacquiao vs. Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez

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  1. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    I hope you are not pulling our legs with that joke.
     
  2. mbandit

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    Excuses ,Excuses.Dont you know headbutts happen all the time its part of the sport,if pac couldnt handle that than he is not as great as you guys make him out to be.Let me give you an example : On that same night in the fight before pac and morales 1 jorge arce fought hussein hussein and was cut very badly by a headbutt and worse than pac,and what happened he fought on bloody and all just to ko his opponent in the tenth round.Why couldnt pac do that?Cuz morales beat him fair and square.And dont say about the gloves cuz a real champ wins regardless of what zize of gloves he his wearing.And keep in mind morales was not in his prime when he beat pac,he was showing signs way before the first fight.O yeha and just like pacdbest says the reason pac got koed early in his career is cuz of being weightdrained,so was erik morales in the second and third fight,thats why he moved up in weight.Any ways gomez wins by k.o!
     
  3. johnco

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    well match is being fantasized at 130 not more than that... :-(
    the scary part is lot of haters are doing a fantasy match up where everything is in favor for the greats and as if the greats will just use 1 finger to put pac in the grave :blood:blood

    damn you guys are talking about pac here. pound per pound numero dos not CABBY DRIVERS were duran fought under his resume.

    AND THE SCARIER PART IS you are underminding pac where in fact you are comparing some quitters and no mas against the pound per pound dos. :-:)-(
    thats delusional!!!! thats scarier stuff. :hi:
     
  4. johnco

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    seet pea, your reasoning is very much respected but i do hope you respect ours :hey we have do have our own thinking. and please dont say that jmm... he chickened out for so long. :good
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    pac was forced not to wear his cleto reyes gloves. was that fair? it was not the size of the gloves that matter but the feel of the gloves. well all of us will say, what the heck, it was just gloves but pac could have feel, maybe psychologically, that it was not the right gloves. and pac showed everyone that he can KO the never been KO'd before morales with his puncher's gloves in the rematch.

    and about the headbutt, pac handled the headbutt very well and displayed tremendous heart by not giving up even if the cut was so bad. he even made the first match a close one.
     
  6. johnco

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    so whose talking about excuses now??? :patsch:patsch
    that fight was won by em no DOUBT ... but it is nothing to brag about my dear. nothing special. E.m won due to head butt admit that fact!! every fighter is different. pac's cut is along the eyesight. and he said he couldnt see. HOW CAN YOU BE A GREAT FIGHTER IF YOU CANT SEE YOUR OPPONENT DUMBY??? :lol::lol: and he proved itthe second time and third.. as i have been saying. he put ems ass into submission. not u.d. enough said
     
  7. ravtrav

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    i don't understand why everybody hates pac fans. all these threads say pac vs ........., but when someone picks pac in these " what if " fight, everybody starts saying your a nutthugger, delusional, etc... why even make the thread if your only looking to bash pac and his fans cause they believe he can win. i wouldn't call us delusional but loyal.












    don't hate us cause pac destroys all your heros (past and present) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. johnco

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    very well said :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    yeah i just don't get it. and the strange part of it was that not all pacfans are picking him at 122 vs gomez and yet they are generalizing pacfans as idiots.
     
  10. mbandit

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    Just like e.m didnt feel comfortable in that weight and he was forced to fight in that weight cuz pac did not want to meet him at a catch weight of 132.
     
  11. mbandit

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    Exactly my point you see how i sound?Just exactly how you guys sound when you make excuses.And give me a break he could see his opponent its not like his eye was swollen shut.Many figthers have fought on to win and with worse cuts.Any ways e.m was winning way before the butt happened.
     
  12. johnco

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    your delusional..... em was winning during the second fight until pac raped him in the 6th round and he was never the same. first fight can go either way if not for that head butt. and he couldnt see my dear... blood is flowing and he kept on wiping his eye part. he couldnt concentrate. google the pix and youll understand ...
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    are you pertaining to the 3rd match? i think morales only asked for the catchweight of 132 before the 3rd match since he have a hard time getting into 130 during the 2nd match. i heard pac himself agreed to a catchweight of 132 but i don't know why it was still done at 130. maybe some rules or maybe pac's coach and advisers didn't buy into it.

    but remember also, all the advantages were for morales during the first match like gloves, accidental headbutt and pac coming from 126 and was not yet familiar at 130.
     
  14. mbandit

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    Hey bro its things that happen in boxing if he could not cope well with the situation then thats his problem.he is a profesional figther and he should know these things happen,and he should be ready for them.Look at arce you dont think those cuts were bothering but he prevailed.how come pac couldnt do that?And when marquez fought pac he had a broken nose and look how well he did.And look at abrham against miranda broken jaw and he still won.And also corrales the first time all swollen and blodied and he came back to knock castillo out.Cotto had two bad cuts against judha and koed him.And james toney had a massive cut above his eye against tom littles worse than pac and still koed him,check on boxrec.com.and i can go on.these things happen in boxing,its part of the game not an excuse.
     
  15. johnco

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    as i have said i am not taking anything from e.m. he won but to say it is fair is crazy. what i have been saying is IF NOT FOR THE HEAD BUTT... WOULD it MAKE A DIFFERENCE? yes.that is why a rematched has been made to prove the first one. fighetrs are different. some fighters are great in doing it but it depends in the situation involved. arce's cut is way different from pac. pacs cut is terrible and he kept on wiping it out. it is a cut with a river of blood flowing. and mind you about jmm, he escaped becuase pac broke that left fist after the first round... as we have been discussing, these are not excuses but these are facts. rematched was made and pac prove along that he was absolutely right after all!