What if Margo does the impossible

Like you say. he isn't that skillfull and doesn't have one punch KO power but he does have a high work rate and is extremely durable. You don't always have to be skillfull to be successfull. Sometimes fitness and ball's of steel can get you quite far.

Saying that he does get over rated by some on here. He is tough but he isn't un-stoppable like some would have you believe. I get the impression that some people on here think that Margo could even take Ernie Shavers' punches.

His most notable win's are his Cintron win's for me. Cintron hit's very hard and Margo just walked right threw these bomb's and broke Cintron down. Now, admittedly Margo didn't win by skill. He won out of sheer toughness and in a large part due to Cintron's shaky pyhce and inability to to have a plan B. They are still impressive win's never the less.

His performance against Williams also deserves merit. For many people Margo only lost due to his lack of effort early on. I know this is Margo's own fault and he deserved to lose but it wasn't like he was out classed.

Basically i believe he's rated by people because he is just so tough. Now i know there have been many tough fighter's before. Gatti springs to mind as a recent example. But Margo just seem's so exceptionally tough. So tough that he can walk down most opponent's and get of his many shots and wear his opponent down. His toughness and high work rate basically make up for his lack of skill's.

 

Who are you supposed to be? The teacher? I asked you point blank to own up to your own request and you came with NOTHING. ZERO. ZILCH. There hasn't been **** from the Cotto side except empty rhetoric. There is a black hole where a detailed explanation of why Cotto will win should be and you just ducked a direct challenge to fill it like a pure coward and tried to turn this into a childish argument. That's truly pathetic. Spare me the crying, snob. You didn't come with anything because you have nothing. That's obvious.

 

Impossible? Geez, I swear some of you have never seen these two fight before in your entire ****ing lives. Margo really is more of an outside fighter who tries to use his long arms to keep you at bay when attacking. He might have come inside against Cintron, but Kermit is roughly the same size and Tony knew his advantages on the inside. So I suspect that in this fight he'll try and once again use his long arms and height advantage to their full abilities.

Problem is that he has the warrior mentality and he often elects to get in close and exchange with shorter opponents and I think that will be his downfall against Miguel Cotto..... so he is a bit inconsistent when attempting to use that reach advantage of his, but expect for Margo to try and use his length for as long as possible until Cotto completely breaks down his defenses.

 

Well... that's really sounds unlikely... I don't expect that... Cotto is a fine boxer but he can be hurt especially on the inside, toe-to-toe... and that's where Margarito is damn good... so Margarito should brawl from start to finish, that's his best chance, and a pretty good chance.

 

The people who pick Cotto to win expressed plenty of views over and above the wide generalizations. The general sense is that Cotto has the right abilities, ring smarts and speed to move inside Margarito's jab and eventually bring the fight inside the phone booth where he would have the advantage.

A cautious approach, based on movement and the jab, was suggested and it is widely agreed that Cotto cannot afford to move in on Margarito by just lunging in head first, risking to get caught by the uppercut.

There's not a great deal to elaborate beyond a general sense of what Cotto's approach would be to solve the few problems posed by Margarito. Conversely, Margarito's approach is pretty much predictable.

The different ideas of the outcome are a matter of trust or lack thereof in Cotto's abilities to counterbalance Margarito's size and workrate and take advantage of his somewhat lack of speed and looping punches.

Other views were expressed, one of which I don't agree with sees Cotto fighting Margarito off the back foot.

On the other hand, people who picked Margarito to win wrote elaborate screenplays though their characterization of Cotto invariably falls in the category of wishful thinking. If I gather what has been said about Cotto this past week, he would be a so-so skilled fighter with a weak chin so-so footwork and overrated power, quite one-dimensional in his customary way to lean forward from a full-crouch stance (which exposes him to the uppercut) and whatnot...

 

I've been personally requesting Cotto victory analysis for quite some time without any response from a host of different individuals on this subject. What you have written here is lterally more than I have yet seen elaborated. For that I'm grateful, something at least. Listening to repititious innuendo without even a shred of substantiation can wear on the senses. It gets old, yes?I do not however agree, my fellow braindead ingrate. This will not come to pass. I can pick at your work here if you'd like, otherwise I'm satisfied nobody, including you, has said anything to stop me from betting my house on a Margarito victory. Truly, it is Cotto's intangibles, and his body work, that might be the only things that could see him come out a winner. He's not good enough overall to win on skill. He wouldn't have gone neck and neck with shot Fernando Vargas' Mosley if he was anywhere near the level fans have tried to put him. He clubbed Judah to death, he didn't skill ****. All anybody has to do is use their ****in eyes. I could go on, but...........

 

Good post, until you started making **** completely up again, Ziggy. You are utterly full of ****. This is you, yourself, you're talking about. Your word construction is just as fake as your boxing knowledge.

 

Do you, perchance, own a tent? Because it looks that you will be homeless after the fight.

 

Good one, Ziggy. Impressive. :dead

 

The reason that you don't see many people tell you how Cotto is going to win is because of Cotto's versatility. Cotto can do so many different things in there that it's going to be hard to tell exactly what he is going to do.

Many believe that Cotto has a plan A, B, C & D. While Margo only has a plan A.

This is why you see in the polls that the people who pick Margo pick him by KO because they themselves don't see Margo outboxing Cotto.

So Cotto may choose to press forward for part of the fight, counter for the other part it will all depend on what Cotto sees on the ring.

Those who pick Margo are picking him because of your belief that Cotto has a weak chin and won't withstand Margo's assault. That's like one fighter going in there and laying back most of the fight hoping that the other guy gets tired in the later rounds and when the other guy doesn't get tired the fight is over and the fight is lost.

Most of those picking Margo are picking him on the perceived Cotto's inability (chin) but not on Margo's abilities in the ring. While those picking on Cotto are picking on both Cotto's abilities (skill) and Margo's inabilities(lack of versatility).

 

Margo still gets KTFO? Who has Cotto ever "KTFO"?:blood And he certaintly WON'T do that to Margo

 

Why, is technical boxing supposed to be the only attribute that should be highly rated? Or "genuine outright punch power", whatever the hell that means?

 

This is a very good post with very good insight. This is one reason why I want to see the fight. Margarito is a difficult challenge and I would like to see what plans or strategies Cotto will employ in the ring and whether it will be good enough to turn back his biggest threat to welterweight supremacy.

 

Part of the answer to your question stems from Mayweather jr. breaking his promise (so to speak) to fight Margarito. Instantly, a myth was created: Margarito soon became "the most feared man in boxing".

Although his achievements in the ring didn't quite live up to his reputation, the myth persisted.

Don't mean to disparage Margarito but a good deal of his reputation comes from how he is persistently measured to boxers he hasn't fought, Mayweather being the main reference (the sophism goes: Floyd wants no piece of Tony, Floyd is scared of Tony, Tony's great... something like that)

Other than that, he's a big, tall, tough WW; very good chin though he went down twice from head shots; excellent stamina. Conversely, he's a volume puncher with below-average connect rate who needs room to extend his long arms, a bit slow-footed, slow-handed by WW standards, good uppercut when the opponent is within his range, one-dimensional with some problems keeping his balance when his opponent shows lateral movement.

Nothing special, really.