What if Monzon had not retired in 1977?

He was ready to be taken as any fighter’s who’s heart isnt in it anymore.

 

By retirng at the tight time he peserved his legacy as better fighter loomed in the future. Ie Hagler and Corro.

 

In 1977. neither Hugo Corro nor Marvelous Marvin Hagler were not ready or even considered for the vacant title, both WBC and WBA. It was Rodrigo Valdes and Bad Bennie Briscoe, both victims of Carlos Monzon. Hagler had lost the year before to two Philly fighters. I think Corro was ready by the next year, Hagler had already avenged his two recent decision losses, began to sharpen his skills for a run in 1979.

 

No, Carlos Monzon is deceased today as of 1995. The only way that he would be Heavyweight Champion is if he was dumb enough to engage in your obsession, Modern (Steroids) Nutrition. Not everyone with brains uses them unless they are totally vain or greedy. Remember Carlos retired as World Middleweight Champion, 1970-1977, 14 title defenses, he never Sniveled about any of his title bouts, like some other champions did, he took care of business in the ring.

 

1) I was joking. My post literally had nothing to do with steroids.

2) As I've said before, your constant attempts to diagnose me over the internet with "obsessions," and speculate about my background (thus far, you've speculated in various places that I'm a bitter ex-boxer and communist addicted to steroids) is rude. Especially when I've told you to stop in the past. It's also unprovoked, and you do it to other people seemingly at random, which makes it even more baffling.

 

This reminds me of the," what if Marciano hadn't retired question" Answer is he'd have eventually lost.

 

It appears that you can dish it out and are not able to take it. You opened the door on that thread, you posted a comment, and I responded to it. I do not think you are joking, you use that phrase much too often when another poster views it as sarcastic, maybe you are just telling it like it is, be honest. But as I mentioned, when you open the door, be man enough to accept the consequences. Any time you feel the need to report me, that is your right. But if I am banned, it will not break my heart, you see I have a life outside of this site. Let's do this, I will stay out of your threads, stay out of my posts, personally I do not like you. This is a civil way of avoiding future conflicts.

 

In my own opinion because I did follow very closely the middleweight division, there was absolutely no interest at that time. Alan Minter was starting to make a lot of Middleweight noise, he commented in a magazine article that he learned a lot from watching Carlos Monzon's title unification win over WBC champion Rodrigo Valdes on June 26 1976 in Monte Carlo, Monaco. I believe this article was from a Boxing Illustrated magazine after the first Valdes bout. And really not to degrade Marvelous Marvin Hagler in any way, no one noticed him really until late 1978 and early 1979. Carlos Monzon was already retired and starring in motion pictures in his native land of Argentina. He stated on many occasions that he did not want to return to the ring because he was financially set, enjoyed the silver screen more than being in the squared circle, and had already accomplished what he wanted to do in the ring. I believe that he had good management to ensure this. On his retirement as champion on August 29 1977, contenders like Rodrigo Valdes, Bennie Briscoe, Ronnie Harris, Alan Minter and Gratien Tonna were the fighters that both the WBA , WBC were contemplating holding a tournament to determine the new champion, they were more proven at that time. Both organizations decided that no.! contender Valdes and no.2 contender Briscoe would meet on Nov 5 1977 to replace Monzon as the new undisputed champion, Valdes won on points in 15 rounds, becoming undisputed champion of the middleweights.

 

EDIT: I had a longer reply, but I don't see the point of getting into tit-for-tat. I'll make it simple. You replied to me, dude. I don't care whether you avoid me or not. I never asked for that, or reporting/banning, or whatever else you're complaining about. All I expect is that when you do choose to interact with me, you don't start tossing out mental health diagnoses at me like you've been doing for months. That's just basic manners.

As to the humor, since you are accusing me of lying and asking me to be honest, here it is: It's very, VERY obvious that what I said in this thread is a joke. Most people here don't have a problem understanding when I'm making a joke. If you think I was serious that a middleweight who's been dead since the 1990s would be heavyweight champion today, then I think you need to recalibrate your humor detectors.

 

Monzon was still fighting at a high level. He wouldn't have been near as vulnerable to a Corro type style as Valdez was. I think he would have reigned a bit longer.

 

what really more he had to prove ? he was 100 fights deep into the pit, the record for the most MW title defenses .. He was 35 and already had given his best competition 2 times to beat him .. Everyone's time is numbered ... hell ask Hagler he was only 33, with 30 less fights than Monzon

 

Champ until 1979, when Hagler beats him, if his mind is right.