What if Pacquiao stayed as a lightweight and cleaned out the division?

cleaning out the jr WW division would be better.

 

legacy and money-wise, there is no other path pac could have taken where he would much better than now. anyone who thinks of other path that would give pac better legacy and money must be out of their damn mind.

 

Actually path he followed added far more to his legacy, i could have seen him clearly out lightweight after the diaz fight. Did i see him doing what he has actually done after that fight, no chance.

Now if he went back down to light welter and cleared that out today that would add a lot to his legacy, not as much as beating mayweather would though but if that fight doesn't happen its a good route for manny.

 

Do you think Max Baer was more skilled and intelligent than Max Schmeling? I think the opposite. He *****-slapped Schmeling all around the ring though and I would say for no more than being bigger and stronger and more durable. Do you think Foreman was more intelligent or skilled than Joe Frazier? I don't. But Foreman beat the **** out of Frazier just the same, and I'd say only because he was bigger, stronger and more durable. Just like size can only compensate for so much against greater skill, skill has it's limitations too when compensating for size and power.

 

Nail- head- hit.

Imagine if he beat Martinez and Williams next. Unbelievable.

 

the alternate route sucks! i like the route hes taking now!

 

He forever solidified his status in boxing with what he did.

 

Valero and Katsidis probably wouldnt do that much legacy wise and I think Casa and JMM were too big of risks

at the higher weights he is so fast he can get away with his flaws

JMM and Casa at 135 would be fast enough to counter him

Juan Diaz would have been a great fight

 

Im going to be honest when i say this if he Pacquiao stayed at 135 and cleaned out the division.

Someone would have got seriously hurt. Thats my feeling.

I mean can you see Humberto Soto or Casamayor taking the beating Margarito just took and he is huge and has got massive heart with a great chin.

Could you see Soto lasting or even not ending up seriously hurt e.g Coma or even worse.

I feel half the reason they moved him up after David Diaz was because he could really really hurt someone.

 

casamayor was already shot by the time pac moved-up to lightweight.

 

This is nuts. Lets start here: Katsidis does not have 'some similarities' to Hatton, one was a two weight world champion and linear champion at his best weight who had only lost to the best fighter in the world, the other has lost twice, is yet to win an actual full world title and nearly got knocked out by Graham ****ing Earl.

So we've got Marquez, who Pac already beat, and Valero, who went nuts before he could really face anyone good, so it's unknown where he could have reached. The other three are laughable. They've all lost to people who Pacquaio beat, or to people who lost to people that Pacquiao beat.

Diaz lost to Malignaggi, who lost to Hatton and Cotto, and to Marquez.
Casamayor lost to Castillo who lost to Hatton, and to Marquez
And Katsidis lost to Casmayor and Diaz (see above).

 

Same stardom

 

No, my point was that facing those good fighters is better then facing people who lost to them.

Seriously? Mitchell? Escobedo? You think this compares with Cotto's resume?

No, he didn't do well, he got absolutely battered. He 'did well' to make it to the end of the fight. Then he got hammered by Hatton. Then he handled Diaz comfortably twice. As above, with Katsidis, these are completely different levels we're talking about. You can't just say 'Hatton and Katsidis are both come forward pressure fighters, so beating one is comparable to beating the other, they're levels apart, as both their careers show.