What if Royce lost to Gerard Gordeau in UFC 1?

i wanted gordeau to win.

 

I think we would have seen a larger influence of the Japanese style of shootfighting, but eventually the brazilian fighters would have shown up somehow I imagine, my guess is a similar style would have developed, but we would be further behind on the timeline. We may have also seen the dominant period of almost pure wrestlers earlier and for a longer time.

 

Well, CT is right, the Gracie's would have sent Rickson, and he'd have manhandled any of those early guys up until cross training became truly evident, but the view would be more on Rickson being a great JJ artist, less of BJJ being such an efficient fighting style.

Tell you what though, I've started training in BJJ recently, I'm enjoying it throughly, under the right context, it's probably the most efficient standard style are(non-hybrid) that I can think of.

 

how long do you think rickson would have been the champion for?

 

Well, Rickson's record of 400-0 is an ego trip and a line of ****. The guy is beyond arrogant, but even at that, he probably was the best JJ practicioner in straight JJ of all of the Gracie family and their history.

He's also quite a decent sort in person. Renzo Gracie adopted to MMA better than the rest, but Rickson spanks him in a straight BJJ match.

So I'd say Rickson would have blown everyone else out until MMA started to take form with some serious Cross Training, and even then, he'd have been a live element in certain matches.

 

Apparently they sent Royce because the family considered him not to be the best BJJ practitioner in the family, they sent one of their weaker family members to prove that no matter what, BJJ could triumph over all.

 

A fine idea, BJJ is everywhere and will continue to spread. Highly effective for female self defence in a variety of situations.

All it takes is a hand to hand combat mentality with BJJ to turn it from a simple martial art to a devastating lethal form of levarage quick kill fighting, same could go for catch wrestling and Judo the same.

I like it though, could be advanced on and made better all the same.

Royce did his job, I dont like him as a person, he was lucky to be selected as the test dummy against those poor examples early on, but he did his job, commands some respect.

 

Royce is an arrogant *******......
The gracies were kind of punks back in Brazil, they would randomly start fights in the street or on the beach, and then school some guy to show how great fighters they were.

I think theres an infamous video, were Rickson just lunges and punches a guy at the beach and then......I think gets the guy in a submission and breaks his arm.

 

A top notch striker with a great takedown D is going to paste anyone who tries that, too bad they weren't readily around at that time if that's the case...

Anyone who's highly skilled in anything who goes picking on random people deserves to have their face caved him.

That's bull****.

 

Truthfully CT, it's more realistic that Royce would have lost to Shamrock, than Gerard.

And in that relation, Beebs' post is in full truth.

 

That will definitely be made up. The dealers in Brazil are armed to the teeth, they have ****ing hour long gun battles with the police and anyone trying to muscle out their trade by using martial arts would find themselves in a body bag pretty quickly.