What if Seldon Didn't Freeze on that Fateful Night in 1996?

Pac asked the guy if he was a Southside Crip, because they had recently gotten into a fight with some of Suge's friends, who were from a rival Blood set. They snatched his friend's chain or something.

So Pac went up to the guy (Orlando Anderson) and asked if he was from that Crip set ("You From the South?), then they proceeded to jump the guy.

That's pretty much immersing yourself as a participant in a gang beef.

 

And if the Seldon fight hadn't ended so soon, Tupac would've missed the guy in the lobby. They just happened to run into each other.

Without that confrontation, which was captured on video and involved a large number of people, and sent people running from the tables in fear ... he wouldn't have been killed when he left for the after party.

Timing is everything.

Seldon screwed everything up by diving.

 

Tupqcs shooting and murder were well planned and orchestrated, it had nothing to do with the fight in the lobby with Orlando Anderson.

Even if Seldon went the distance, Tupac was meant to die that night (ot at least get shot)

 

Oh please.

They didn't know ahead of time which car in a caravan he was getting into. Or where he'd be sitting in that car. They didn't know if the other cars in the caravan were going to block them out. They didn't know if traffic was going to be heavy and if a lot of cars were going to be on the street at the time blocking them out. They didn't know when the lights were going to turn red and if they'd be able to drive up alongside the car the moment the light stopped traffic. And they certainly didn't hire someone who could shoot straight. He just sprayed the car hoping to hit something.

There was absolutely nothing "well planned and orchestrated" about that.

They didn't ambush him at some predetermined spot. The rolled up alongside of him at a stoplight. It was a hot-headed act.

When it works, it seems well orchestrated. But you couldn't plan for ANY of that ahead of time. Don't kid yourself.

Unless, by planned, you mean, as they were angry and following the group leaving the hotel, one guy said, "If I see him I'm going to shoot him."

 

There's a video somewhere on youtube of a renactment of the shooting.

Judging by the way 2pacs cars was literally blocked in from all sides to me suggests it was a planned murder.

On one side he has a group of girls calling him out meanwhile the car next to him on the other side has a team of shooters, i dont think that was a coincidence.

 

A renactment of the the shooting

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODgWWPDwddA

I believe the girls were in on it.

I find.it strange that a gang decided to murder a famous celebrity in the one of the busiest places in the world in broad daylight, and that too over just a beating?

Funny how all the others involved in the fracas in the casino are still alive, but the one guy who witnessed the shooting ends up dead?

Sorry i don't buy that, if a gang was behind it, someone would have been caught by now.

2pac was murdered by people much higher up. Hence why no one has ever been convicted.

The can search the caves of Afghanistan and find Bin Laden, the can find Saddam in a hole apparently, but they cant find the murderer of a musician on the las Vegas strip after a Mike Tyson fight?

 

A bit of topic, this short documentary is good on why 2pac was murdered.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLhSJowJfaE

 

What a crock of s*&t. If the authorities WANT to find someone they both can and do. If the victim of a murder is considered lowlife by those same authorities their efforts to find the perpetrator/s will be somewhat halfhearted. That is the same all over the world, not just Murican subculture land.

 

I agree, except for the obnoxious continued use of "Merican." I don't believe in any conspiracy theory on Tupac's death. If it didn't happen that night, it would have happened eventually. He was hanging with the wrong people.

 

He was a multi million record selling artist with influence worldwide.

2pac has more fans and is probably more well known as Obama is.

As i said before, 2pac wasn't the only one whose was involved in that beating, but its funny hes was the only one killed for it.

Those who knew Orlando Anderson said he would not have gone as far as to kill someone for that. The cops wanted to speak to him, Surprise surprise, he ends up dead.

Both Yafu Feula and Malcom Green stepped forward as witnesses to 2pacs shooting. One ended up being killed suspiciously outside his girlfriends flat while the other changed his story.

Mopreme Shakur when asked said 2pac was killed by the cops and he didn't want to say anymore because he didn't want to end up dead.

So yeah your right when the authorities want to find the killer they do it,however in this particular case they were behind it hence, no killer ever found.