What if the colour line had been drawn the oppisite way.

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  1. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    burt, ravishing rick, splitnose...explain yourselves!!
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    In fairness, he was passed as having to many dependants to go to war. Of course, people with more did go...and people with fewer responsibilities probably took advantage of the rule to duck. Go figure.
     
  3. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    It's not the same cos Dempsey was white.
     
  4. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How did the best black and white hw do when they met up to 1960?

    Here is the list using the white champions

    Corbett--Drew with Jackson
    Fitz--ko'd by Johnson
    Jeffries--Ko'd Jackson, Ko'd by Johnson
    Hart--decisioned Johnson
    Burns--lost to Johnson
    Willard--ko'd Johnson
    Schmeling--ko'd by Gains, split ko's with Louis
    Sharkey--Defeated Wills and Godfrey. Ko'd by Louis.
    Carnera--Won from Godfrey on foul. Lost to Gains. Ko'd by Louis.
    Baer--ko'd by Louis
    Braddock--ko'd by Louis
    Marciano--ko'd Louis, Walcott twice, decisioned Charles, ko'd Charles.
    Patterson--ko'd by Ingo. ko'd Ingo twice.

    I get 13-12-1 for the white champions.

    I guess one could dispute who were the top black fighters. Gains and Godfrey cancel each other out 2-2.

    There are plenty of arguments about this guy or that guy being old. Fitz and Jeff to Johnson, and Sharkey to Louis were old. Schmeling was a tyro when beaten by Gains.

    Jackson to Jeff, Wills to Sharkey, and Louis to Marciano, were old.

    I think it kind of evens out. They appear to be pretty evenly matched.
     
  5. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Where are McVey, Jeannette, and Langford in that picture?
     
  6. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Great responces so far i knew i came to the right place :good
     
  7. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of them fought a white champion.

    The champion who actually ducked them in their primes was Johnson.
     
  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    :huh

    If the color line remains in place up until Marciano, obviously Fitz, Jeffries and Dempsey don't get their shots !
    I mean, they'd be bloody old or dead by the 1950s !
     
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Agree. Dempsey could have gone if he had wanted to. He would have been an idiot not to dodge the draft though. He was just coming to the peak of his powers and on the brink of the riches of the title. It's pretty easy to figure out why he didn't go - and "providing for his family" isn't the answer, IMO.
     
  10. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    :lol::lol: