What if the devil had got into Roy Jones in his prime and he went all out for glory?

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  1. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Imagine him fighting the majority of

    1992 MW rankings

    1. Julian Jackson
    2. James Toney
    3. Reggie Johnson
    4. Roy Jones Jr.
    5. Mike McCallum
    6. Sumbu Kalambay
    7. Gerald McClellan
    8. Lamar Parks
    9. Bernard Hopkins
    10. Thomas Tate

    1993 top two

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Gerald McClellan

    Gone out on his way to fight all the top SMW's

    1. James Toney
    2. Michael Nunn
    3. Chris Eubank
    4. Nigel Benn
    5. Tim Littles

    Beat all the best light heavyweights

    1. Antonio Tarver
    2. Dariusz Michalczewski

    Moved up to HW to fight Lennox Lewis

    Perhaps granting rematches to Hopkins, Toney.

    ATG resume.
     
  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He did pretty dam good with who he fought. Looking back on his career and how the supposed fighters he ducked careers played out, I dont think Jones would have had much trouble had he faced everyone under heavy, he was just too fast. He never had any business at heavyweight, and even John Ruiz was a tough challenge and a big accomplishment for Jones in my oinion.
     
  3. Danny

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    Tyson would have KO'd Jones, even if Jones fought him when Roy was at his peak! Jones would not have been able to hurt Tyson & Mike was no slouch in the speed department himself so its not as if Jones could easily hit & move all night long!

    In Jones going all out for glory, throwing caution to the wind, I think his durability lets him down at some stage & he gets stopped or knocked out!
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That says it all right there.

    If he'd taken more risks, I think his legacy would still end up where it is now. He'd probably have more big wins/achievements to his credit, but also more embarrassing losses, side-by-side.
     
  5. Rourke

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    I always wanted a Toney rematch, whether it was at 168, 175, 190. Also he and DM should have fought.

    I think Lennox Lewis would have been the biggest fight of his life, but I can't see him with much of a chance.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's hard not to see him totally cleaning out the SMW and LHW divisions in the 90's had the fights against all the top guys come to pass. He would of course have been sparked by both Tyson and Lewis had he been stupid enough to take them on, but I don't think anyone would hold that against him. He could have had one of the very best records if he'd really tried, he was that superior. As it is he still has a very solid one, and lots of money in the bank, of course.
     
  7. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Shouldnt this be in the fantasy section...
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you mean that the Fitz vs SRR, Jeffries vs Ali, Duran vs Whitaker etc threads that abound on this forum is more realistic?
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I don't think Lennox would have fought him anyway.
     
  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    great list! i think the darius, benn, eubank and hopkins rematch would have sealed his legacy. the others were great (especially jackson) but for me those would be the most important. collins would have been a fine feather but he'd never fight a friend in mcclellan.

    the lewis/klitschko/tyson matches would have been great but unlikely at any point because of the size difference. still if he had gone all out i believe 100% he'd be a top ten atg
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Someone would have still found that glass chin of his.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most of them avoided Roy like the plague except Lewis/Klit.

    Hopkins - Hops ducked him and is still avoided the fight as of this week, Roy asked him for a winner takes 60% or even winner takes all on the radio show they were both on and Hopkins wasnt trying to hear it
    Darius M- wouldnt come to the US plain and simple
    Fabriozio Tiozzi - moved to Cruser before Roy was at 175
    Sven Ottke - is that a joke? No way Otke goes outside Germany
    Gerald Mcclellan - Would have happened if GMAN didnt get hurt
    Nigel Benn - Benn was a Don King fighter so Roy would have to sign his career away to make the fight. RJJ dominated and ko'd Mallinga who twice beat Benn
    Chris Eubank - Eubank turned JOnes down from '92-'98 before and after Jones was a name
    Steve Collins - Collins wanted 6m and wasnt a stateside name
    Julian Jackson - JJ was busy losing to GMAN

    Most of these have no chance in hell of beating Jones plain and simple
     
  13. DRmullen2

    DRmullen2 Member Full Member

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    After Roy, Toys with em all. The devil made em do it. Hey look I don't get paided for this.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lets even allow him not to go beyond 175 , i'd believe that after he joins the collins/eubanks/watson/benn/mcclellan/jackson/mccallum party he ends like collins,watson,mcclellan . (he did fight mccallum , but a very old one and only at 175 , and still didn't stop him) maybe he'd still have won some title or two at 175 , but retires before the age of 35 (for medical reasons) . he would have had more losses , for sure , i don't think he'd even reached tarver's peak or at least not fight him by then.
     
  15. Ezzard

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    He'd have lost more fights but it wouldn't have mattered. he'd have had some great wins and if he'd have lost a rematch to Hopkins (just an example) then a true rivalry would have been created and great rivalries bring out the best in fighters.

    The one problem for Roy is that when he did suffer a defeat the intimidation factor would be gone. Can't believe people are trying to say these fights not happening can't be blamed on the man holding all the cards...and, of course, he'd have won them all anyway (which is obviously why he didn't make any of them happen).