What if Tyson Fury retires after beating Wilder

You said ever now you are trying to change what you said because you were wrong... Sad.

 

Josh taylor
Teofimo lopez
Joe Joyce
All the above will have better records after 13 fights than people in their division with 30+ fights.

In fact I bet if I was to look it up there will be lots of others - Rigo, Innoue immediately spring to mind.

 

and your points means something to me why ?
ortiz will always be above the crude slugger chis
i dont agree with the points you make

 

stopped reading at 99.9
that dame 99.9 as fury as a beaten fighter

ummm

one site shuts and an influx


lofl ah the im never looking back brigade

 

rigo does absolutely
josh ive said is special
teo soon as he moves up in weight hes done
nothing specail about him at all

 

You're the one replying bud, so it obviously means something to you.

 

nothing at all
chisora is top end euro level
he aint no world class fighter although he is good fun to watch
its that simple
opinions on a forum

 

You've asserted this multiple times... And your only defence of it seems to be "look at these ranking tables", as if you expect anyone to just take their word for it.

So go on, what has Ortiz actually done that puts him a level above Chisora, in your opinion?

Because as far as I can see it's far, far easier to make the argument that Chisora has done much more than Ortiz to deserve the respect that Ortiz gets...

 

Yep.

Chisora is a gatekeeper level fighter.

Ortiz has done less than Chisora has, and it's not even that close... This means Ortiz is gatekeeper level at best, it doesn't mean Chisora is anything more than that.

This ain't complicated.

 

I didn't write 99.9 so you can't have stopped there.

And your second sentence is nonsensical, I have no idea what you're trying to say.

 

I ever said there was anything special about teo.

 

Resume wise he wouldn't crack the top 100

H2H I'd maybe have him top 20 though, he is a challenge for any heavyweight due to his height weight and boxing skills.

Overall i'd maybe say around 50-60 mark

 

If both Joshua and Fury retired after their next fight (assuming both win), Joshua would rank higher. He has a better resume.

 

Only if you rate 50 year old Povetkin, Pulev & Takam

Pfff.

Fury is going to scalp AJ if Usyk doesn't get there first.

 

He had his chance this summer but once the fight was arranged he s**t himself