What if Tyson had kept his corner complete for his entire career?

That he was.

As far as physical condition, he'd rarely ever looked better. That's really all he had going for him, with most of his skills having been eradicated.

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I think pretty much every really successful athlete (or athlete aspiring to be sucessful) needs a good support system. Tyson was no different.

He had his demons no doubt, but with Rooney and Jacobs around, they were easier to contain. The people that came after were by and large lackeys or yes men.

I'd like to think that, fighting aside, Tyson would have been a more settled guy. More grounded. Jacobs kept Tyson very, very grounded. His ego was kepy nicely in check.

Maybe Tokyo would have happened anyway, I don't know. What I do know is that Tyson would have come in better prepared. More focussed.

It's impossible to say how exactly he would have fared against Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis; all three were excellent fighters, and Lewis was really coming into his own around '94 or so. Tyson would have been champ (assuming he did not lose in the meantime) for nearly eight years...that's a heck of a long stay at the top for a short heavyweight, and it's a lot to ask of anyone in such a competitive era. (Staying undefeated)

My guess is that he would have lost some, won some against these three guys.

 

Im a big Tyson fan, as you know and ive recently come to the conclusion.

Holyfield would give any version of Tyson hell. I recently watched the second fight and looked at some of Holyfields movements, he had studied Tysons style to a T.

To beat Holyfield, Tyson would have to be at his upmost best and put on a performance like never before.

Holyfield is Tysons only obstacle IMO. Tyson wipes the floor with Lennox and i feel Bowe mixing it with Tyson (Like he did with Holyfield) means bad news for Bowe.

 

Isn't the same thing can be said about any fighter who steps into the ring with Holyfield?

 

He was definitely something else.

Holyfield was a damn good fighter on his own merit. His heart, chin and toughness were particularly extraordinary and it does carry him as far as you really want to go with it. He's in the Highest Tier here and that was established before he ever beat Mike Tyson. Every fighter has a bag of dirty tricks, but lets not pretend Holyfield wasnt one of the more exceptional in this area as well. By the mid-90s, he'd also mastered the "counter-clinch".

 

Not sure it'd be different at all.

Douglas beats him in 90. Maybe he gets a shot at holyfield before prison but more likely he doesn't.

In 96 he'd probably be in better shape but it's hard to say what the 4 year prison stint did.

 

Tyson's first Manager Billy Cayton would NOT make Tyson rematch Razza Ruddock like Donny King did.

Donny only made Tyson rematch Ruddock to say a big "**** YOU!" to Team Holyfield - as in "i got teh most hyped boxer on teh planet And he doesnt need a title or a Undefeated record to make multi-million$$$ like your champion does!!"

And that means Tyson would not have 3 cracked ribs from teh rematch with Razza, so the Holyfeild fight would NOT be cancelled in 1991.


Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:hat

 

Yeah, but then again if the second fight didnt happen, we'd have to hear about how Tyson "wouldnt give Ruddock a rematch" and all that bull****. He ruined Ruddock, and definitely didnt come out unscathed himself.

 

I am NOT a Tyson-fan as you all know - But there was no bloody need for a rematch. Razza was v.badly hurt on *****-street And Tyson was stringing together proper vintage combos, a few seconds longer And it would of been night night, lights out for Mr.Ruddock. :dead


Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke

 

Great moment in the first fight when Tyson taunts Ruddock and leaves himself intentionally wide open to get hit with a right. What ****ing arrogance and risk. Perfect illustration of how Douglas had absolutely no impact on Tyson's psyche. Another occurred in the second fight when Tyson throws low and gets scolded by Mills Lane. The next punch he rips off an overhand right that drops Ruddock to his knees. Thats the type of stuff - among other things - that make people gravitate towards him.

 

Do you honestly think that Tyson was in shape for the fight Luf? Seriously? Tyson dropped serious weight in the last few weeks leading up to the fight...you don't think that if he hadn't been partying in Tokyo he would've done infinitely better?

And it would've been way different in the sense of the sudden downward spiral would've been postponed by Rooney and Cayton...he wouldn't have been half as wild as he was with Horne Holloway and King.

He'd have destroyed douglas if the fight would've been in america...just as Lennox Lewis destroyed Hasim Rahman when he took it serious! :deal

 

Lets not forget his 3rd fist (Head) In both Lewis fights...2nd fight much more so, Holyfield used his head again and again......and he was more than deliberate in doing so...Antonio Tarver saying that he trained his head by headbutting the heavybag :bbb

 

The Carl Williams fight wouldve been Douglas' fate otherwise.

Jesus Christ, what a powerful left hook.

 

:good

Just a shame that Tyson and Holyfield didn't fight straight after the williams fight...Holyfield starched Rodrigues in the same week in 2.


Mike Tyson " we were working on slipping and hooking, so I slipped to get in there, instantaneously BING throw the punch...and I was successful! "

 

Yup.