What if Wlad fought Lewis instead of Vitali the night of 2002

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  1. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Here one perspective on a guy who fought both....



    Phil Jackson was stopped in the second round against a 23-year-old Wladimir Klitschko in 1999 and later sparred with him. “The experience that I got from Wladimir – he’s a tough cookie. He had those losses, I don’t know what happened to him. To me, Wladimir – he’s a good fighter. Something went wrong, somewhere down the line. To me, I knew he could still be the champ because he has that power. He has that power.” That’s not the only asset Klitschko owns, says Jackson, who sparred with both brothers in Atlantic City before Wladimir boxed Ray Mercer in 2002. “He has an excellent jab. He’s not a mover like his brother – his brother moves extremely well. Wladimir wears you down with that power.” Jackson, who lost a world title bid to Lennox Lewis by KO 8 in 2004, says Klitschko hit harder than Lewis. “Klitschko had more power, most definitely. In both hands. You could feel it. Put it this way – if it would have been Wladimir in there when his brother fought Lennox Lewis, I think he would have dropped Lennox Lewis. I honestly do. I think he would have dropped Lennox Lewis.”
    Jackson sees a difference in Klitschko’s style now compared to 1999. “Back then, he just don’t give a damn. He just came forward. He just throw ’em at you. Now he boxes more, he boxes smarter now and waits for the right time to use the power.”
     
  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis would have knocked him out in less than 2 rounds.
     
  3. uncletermite

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    The problem is love Hewitt is an actress,and Jackson is a boxer whos been hit by both guys. :nut
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Probably this. Lennox told Corrie Sanders to jump on Wlad, and Sanders jumped the S H I T outta him.

    I still love the original J Lo - Jennifer Love Hewitt.
     
  5. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    You watch the Mercer fight from 02 and Wlad knocked Mercer down heavily in round 3 with his left hook. Mercer survives and goes on to take heavy punishment. Contrast to the Lewis fight and Mercer went life and death. Lewis fans will argue Mercer was past it but I don't see it that way, he was a mandatory and was in great shape coming off five straight quick ko's. If Wlad can knock down Mercer with one shot he can do Lewis also. Certainly his left hook is heavier than anything McCall or Rahman can muster.
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Still isn't as bad a loss as Rahman or McCall. One shot blowouts.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    Well the rematches weren't one shot blowouts now we're they?
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Did I strike a nerve? Why didn't Wlad give the part time golfer part time boxer a rematch? Lennox pees in Wlad's butt and doesn't bother giving him a proper reach around.
     
  9. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    well said :good
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Or why didn't he fight Bowe, Holyfield or Tyson in their prime? Or Foreman, Alex Stewart, Ike Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Ruiz, Roy Jones, etc. the list goes on and on. Well, instead he beats Vitali and Mercer and beat the guys who beat Corrie Sanders. Fair enough?

    Edit: I forgot to add Bert Cooper, Larry Holmes, Jeremy Williams, Bigfoot Martin, Pinklon Thomas, Tim Witherspoon, Jorge Luis Gonzales, Butterbean, Louis Monaco, Tony Tubbs, Wimpy Halstead, Alonzo Highsmith, Mark Gastineau, Tim "Doc" Anderson, Rocky Sekorski, Alex "San Fer" Garcia, Audley Harrison, Ricky Fatton, Imamu Mayfield, Fabrice Tiozzo, Yuri Vaulin, Herbie Hide, Kirk Johnson, Iran Barkley, James Toney, Gerrie Coetzee, Pierre Coetzer, Kallie Knoetze, Brian Mitchell, Vic Toweel, Lehlo Ledwaba, Chatchai 3-K Battery Dutchboy Gym Toyota, Lamon Brewster, Oleg Maskaev, David Izon, Derrick Jefferson, Gary Bell, Dennis Alexio, Jerry Rhome, Frank Dux, Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, Lenny "The Gov'nor" McLean, Jerry Quarry, Dale Crow, Joey Gamache, Dabo Sweeney, Isaac Frost, David Bostice, Marquis Queensbury, Boston Tom McMustache, Lord Humumgus, Hawk & Animal, Dr. Death Steve Williams, Mrs. Voorhees, Jefferson D'Arcy, Sweet Dreams You Can't Resist - N E S T L E S - Cramy White, Dreamy White, Nestle makes the very best - N E S T L E S - Swwet Dream You Can Han Ant Resist!!!!
     
  11. cuchulain

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    Wlad is the more skillful, more accomplished brother and has a better resume.

    But h2h, Vitali is the better of the two and would always be a 50-50- or close, with Lennox.

    Wlad, especially the Wlad of 2002, would have been stopped sooner.
     
  12. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Hey, re-read my post. I edited it for a faster, smoother release. Edit: I forgot in my original edit to add Piet Crous.

    I actually thought Mercer edged it. And if Lennox accuses Bowe of ducking him, than Lennox ducked both Byrd and Ruiz. Also, I was ****ed when Lennox retired instead of giving Vitali the rematch. But you saying he should've fought Sanders is out of line. And who is Maskajew? I'm sure you meant Oleg Maskaev, who Lennox destroys faster than Golota. Anyways, Maskajew is a tremendous nickname I could use for someone claiming the Jews are G-d's people!

    I didn't like Lennox Lewis during my college years because I felt he would've lost to Bowe and a prime Tyson. But that steaming pile of mierda you posted leads me to believe you have your heart and soul invested in Klitturd'ville. I mean, that's how your loneliness gets you through the night. Things could all be thought spoken words. You're all right, doing fine. Things could all be worse. Your loneliness gets you, your loneliness gets you thought the night.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Vitali was tagging Lewis pretty well in the early rounds, and Wlad has a lot more power than Vitali, so things may not have been too peachy for Lewis. That said, Vitali can absorb punishment way better than Wlad, so there's some merit to the argument that Lewis might just blow out Wlad early.

    TBH I have always seen Lewis/Wlad as an exciting battle between two glass cannons. Whoever lands big first, wins.
     
  14. Pugilist_Spec

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    Lewis is no glass cannon. A prepared Lewis can take a good hit and then some. He'd lay Wlad out. As mentioned previously, he was the one who told Sanders to start aggressive. Wlad at that point was too raw and not defenesively oriented, if Lewis catches him it's good night Irene.

    The uppercuts he hit Vitali with would put Wlad in a coma.
     
  15. uncletermite

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    its a close call to me...if you know how to ****yze fights,Lewis would be walking into a mine field if Wlad was in the ring.Southpaw Sanders would have nothing to do with this match up....its a 50/50 for me based on look what Briggs did to Lewis,he had him rocked in round one...again Wlad prepared is another story ,either way it most likely ends before round 4 with someone getting k.od and weve seen lewis get k.od by big punchers around that time...so its a big what if....