What is a lineal champion

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  1. BCS8

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    It's advertising bull****
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    Lineal comes from the Latin term Lineauticussicum, which is when you ejaculate in a straight line. You may not believe it unless you try it directly but this can be achieved by humming as hard as you can while you're achieving orgasm.
     
  3. MonassaMauler9

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    The lineal world represents the 1st world championship line of decent.
    The historic UNIVERSALLY ACCLAIMED crowned within consensus by the boxing community.
    Pre dates all world sanctioning claimants.

    The fans and and association press originally crowned the one and only world champion,
    No official award was presented upon the victor

    Pre 1921

    The press consensus world rankings of

    BOSTON GLOBE
    FRANCISCO CHRONICLE
    CHICAGO TRIBUNE
    POLICE GAZETTE ( NOW RING)

    had a major influence in determining who the consensus universal no1 and no2 were
    To fight for championship if vacant.

    When the recognized no1 + no2 boxed
    The winner was crowned the new
    UNIVERSALLY ACCLAIMED NO1.
    lineal world champion.

    Champions under its policy were not stripped for unrealistic conflicting requirements
    Every chance was given for a champion in exile to return and defend his crown inside the ring

    So that the championship could be passed on from champion to champion.

    Champions were not stripped for long periods of inactivity due to health
    Legal, injury, or any personal issues.

    The same principle and policy applies the lineal world championship today.

    Only publications of
    TBRB
    BOXING NEWS
    ESPN
    BAD LEFT HOOK

    Have influence on who the consensus no1 + no2 are to crown a new universally acclaimed no1
    From a vacant position.

    Alot of fans have a misconception of what the lineal workd championship represents.
    Some think if the championship is void once theres a break in championship lineage?

    All world championships have breaks in thier lineages.

    UNIVERSAL
    RING
    WBA
    WBC
    IBF
    WBO

    All have breaks in their respective championship lineages

    Each have a different criteria and policy filling a vacant position
    And all have seperate polices in regards to strips.

    The lineal world championship is the original world title.
     
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  4. MonassaMauler9

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    It mean UNIVERSAL RECOGNITION

    The acclaimed best within consensus.

    No sanctioning organisation claim comes near to the strength of the lineal world champion

    After all it is the original UNDISPUTED

    1 champion = no dispute
     
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  5. MonassaMauler9

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    The historic UNIVERSAL crown
    Is the 1st world championship line of decent.

    hence the word LINEAL.
     
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  7. MonassaMauler9

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    The lineal world has no affiliation with sanctioning organisations.

    The championship pre dates all sanctioning titles.

    Nothing to do with belts.

    Once the lineal world becomes vacant

    A press consensus no1 + no2
    Both could have a belt each.
    Both could hold all belts
    1 could hold a belt, the other may not.

    Or a recognised press no1 + no2 might not even hold a world sanctioning belt.

    For example when Mayweather retired the lineal worod became vacant.

    In 2016 Pacquiao vs bradley 3 was recognized as a publication press no1 v no2 box off.

    Neither boxer held a world belt entering the fight
    Nor was there a world belt attached to the fight.

    Pacquiao won
    Became the universally recognized no1 at welter after the victory and never held a world belt.
     
  8. SimonLock

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    That’s a very American view. The consensus of the American press crowning a World champion, ignoring the claims from Australia and the then British Empire.

    There have been plenty of disputes over the lineal title, mostly stemming from either retirements which were reversed or a lack of international agreement.

    Whilst I’m not a fan of the 4-belt era, at least having set rules for who holds a championship means that disputes of the above sort can be settled.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

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    Have you even TRIED the humming thing?
     
  10. Robney

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    It would still mean at least something if the line wasn't broken many times and different opinions when it restarted, and if the "holders" were actually on the level.
    Recently there were 2 different interpretations for the LHW crown for instance and these debates have been troughout the last 4 decades.
    And then you get the issues with the incredible easy ducking options for the "lineal" champion. Once captured a boxer can basically fight whenever or whoever he wants, avoiding mandatories, drug testing regulations, bad style matchups and any dangerous opposition. As we've seen multiple times in recent history.
     
  11. acie2g

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    thank you for saying what I just said, my first comment was the CONSENSUS #1 & 2 fighting, also Manny became Lineal vs Thurman not Bradley
     
  12. MonassaMauler9

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  13. miniq

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    Lineal status has been the go to reference for the best fighting man since caveman ages.

    Tyson Fury is the lineal champion and a worthy contender in Usyk wants that status, not the WBC belt like people seem to think. Usyk will be knocking on the cave door very soon and what comes out to meet him will terrify him because anyone naive enough to think they have the ability to beat Fury and will wake him up from his stupor to challenge him is in for a shock!
     
  14. MonassaMauler9

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    The lineal claim was recognized as the most authentic claim amongst the boxing public.

    If a boxer did not win it pre 1921 they was not recognized as a world champion.

    America was the centre of boxing during the 19th century.

    However UNIVERSAL recognition did shift to other parts of the country during that period,

    For instance UNIVERSAL recognition was recognized in Britain in the early part of 20th cent.
    In the flyweight division

    The likes of jimmy Wilde, Jackie Paterson, peter kane, terry allen, benny lynch flying the British flag
     
  15. MonassaMauler9

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    That's exactly what it represents

    Crowning the acclaimed best within consensus.