What is a realistic "p4p atg top 10" in your oppinion?

It's not fair because boxers these days are prima donnas that need a **** ton of money before taking the tough fights.

Who would you rather be, a boxer making millions with 35 or so fights, or the old timey who beat up a ton of fellow Hall of Famers, but who died broke and alone? I'm sure Floyd will be just fine sitting in his mansion knowing he'll never be on a top 10 ATG list.

Maybe if they accomplished what the old greats did like Ali, Greb, Leonard, and Duran did they would get a spot on the list?

 

avi bet :---(

 

That's awful. :verysad

This weather hasn't been though. You guys call this HOT? Dreading going back to AZ. :-(

 

it was pretty damn hot today, for us at least. but i know what u mean.

i remember going to Fresno county and going to Vegas. **** was HOT. im pretty sure its the same in AZ. thank god we dont get the same humidity as yall.

 

For sure. Never came to Cali before during the warmer months, but every time you start to feel the sun on you here, a breeze conveniently comes through. We get the monsoons during June/July and puts the humidity through the roof, @ 115 degrees.

 

Barney Ross deserves a mention. :yep

I like Ezzard over half those guys. Beat Burley x2, Moore x3 just to scratch the surface. They were also the top rated guys at 160 and 175 when those victories took place and both are top 15-20ish range for most people. His little HW reign makes it more ridiculous. :deal

 

Partial Resume

11/41: Teddy Yarosz (#5 LHW)
01/42: Anton Christoforidis (#2 LHW)
03/42: Ken Overlin (#2 LHW)
05/42: Charley Burley (#1 MW) @ 160
05/42: Charley Burley (#1 MW) @ 160
08/42: Jose Basora (#5 MW)
01/43: Jimmy Bivins (#1 LHW) L
03/43: Lloyd Marshall (#1 LHW) L
05/46: Archie Moore (#1 LHW)
07/46: Lloyd Marshall (#5 LHW)
11/46: Jimmy Bivins (#3 HW)
05/47: Archie Moore (#2 LHW)
07/47: Elmer Ray (#2 HW)
09/47: Lloyd Marshall (#7 LHW)
01/48: Archie Moore (#2 LHW)
05/48: Elmer Ray (#2 HW)
09/48: Jimmy Bivins (#6 HW)
12/48: Joe Baksi (#5 HW)
02/49: Joey Maxim (#5 HW)
06/49: Joe Walcott (#1 HW)
09/50: Joe Louis (#1 HW)
01/51: Lee Oma (#9 HW)
03/51: Joe Walcott (#7 HW)
05/51: Joey Maxim (#3 HW)

Ezzard Charles, Mother****ers. :good

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:good:good great

 

A partial list at best.

07/41: Sammy Angott (#1 LW) @ 135
10/41: Fritzie Zivic (#3 WW)
01/42: Fritzie Zivic (#3 WW)
03/42: Norman Rubio (#10 WW)
07/42: Sammy Angott (LW Champ) @ 147
08/42: Tony Mutisi (#9 WW)
10/42: Jake LaMotta (#6 MW)
10/42: Izzy Jannazzo (#8 WW)
12/42: Izzy Jannazzo (#8 WW)
02/43: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW)
02/43: Jackie Wilson (#3 WW)
02/43: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW)
08/43: Henry Armstrong (#1 WW 1944)
10/44: Izzy Jannazaro (#8 WW)
09/45: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW)
03/46: Sammy Angott (#8 WW)
12/46: Tommy Bell (#1 WW)
05/47: Georgie Abrams (#5 MW)
06/47: Jimmy Doyle (#7 WW)
06/48: Bernard Docusen (#3 WW)
09/48: Kid Gavilan (#1 WW) @ 150+
07/49: Kid Gavilan (#1 WW)
08/49: Steve Belloise (#2 MW)
04/50: Ray Barnes (#7 MW)
06/50: Robert Villemain (#3 MW)
08/50: Charley Fusari (#3 WW)
02/51: Jake LaMotta (World MW Champion)
07/51: Randy Turpin (#1 MW)
09/51: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion)
03/52: Carl Olson (#2 MW)
04/52: Rocky Graziano (#10 MW)
06/52: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion)
07/55: Ralph Castellani (#2 MW)
12/55: Carl Olson (World MW Champion)
05/56: Carl Olson (#1 MW)
01/57: Gene Fullmer (#1 MW)
05/57: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion)
09/57: Carmen Basilio
03/58: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion)

:hi:

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Top 5

Ali
Tyson
Jones
Lenerd
Floyd

 

Barney Ross definitely. McClarnin too. of course Charles, what an absolute badass. Too bad he didn't win the HW title, would have put him in contention for a top 3 or 4 spot IMO

 

But how many ATGs did he beat 1 or 2

 

No Marciano even mentioned? I know he didn't face the best competition in his era, but 49-0 has to speak for something, right?

 

atsch