What is AJ getting if Wilder is getting 15 Million?

Wilder should stick to his 50-50 like Manny did and get a fair split. He has the WBC belt that Joshua wants. It’s called supply and demand. I would force Hearns hand and tell him 50-50 or no deal. Then I would turn to Joshua and tell to get up higher in the WBC rankings or he’ll never fight me for the belt, then let that **** go to purse bid and let Hearn win but the split is now 75-25 in favor of the champ Wilder. Joshua wants that last belt bad so force his hand

 

How are two virtual unknowns, neither on whom have done PPV in the US, a $100 mill fight? Because all of a sudden, fans will be interested in the HW division that they haven;t been in a decade?

 

Deontay won his title three years ago. Rather than having Shelly say things like he still needed to develop, they fed him gimmes that no one cared about. Now he's in the position where his ego is about a hundred times larger than his fanbase or actual drawing worth.

He should thank his lucky stars there is a HW who can get his a huge payday, because Wilder, on his own, could never generate as much in a single fight. And now, here they are, being unrealistic w/ demands, and difficult to negotiate with.

And a still big Deontay fan, it's just disappointing. On his part, and especially his promoter for screwing up what SHOULD have been a sure fire draw in the US by now.

 

The percentage split isn't a big factor unless the fight goes over 50 million in which Joshua deserves whatever the extra is bc he's the one generating the money.

It's really miniscule to argue when you average 1.4 million a fight.

Wilder and his team simply don't want the fight until he's guaranteed 20 plus million , this is obvious what he's doing to anyone with logical business sense!

Wilder should get 30% on a 2019 fight and they split the fight of anything over 100 million which I don't think it will be but it'll be close!

I'm guessing a 80 million mark..

Wilder would get about 30 million, he's clearly ducking the fight if he doesn't accept any new offer regardless as mentioned above!

his 50% demand is a clear sign of what his intentions were in the first place...he did this before Joshua fought Parker and he's still doing it!

This is not negotiating, this is telling me you are not confident in winning!

 

been self employed for 36 years / i understand economics pretty well

IMO it is not a mega fight if it is held in the usa

joshua drew 300 k audience on regular showtime for his unification fight with parker.

that number is pathetic let alone put joshua on a ppv


wilder v joshua 100 million fight in america i think is bull**** numbers with no precedent to back those numbers up.

in america as far as i can see joshua is hyped but not a draw

wilder has a decent following of fans and is much bigger than joshua in the usa and is one of the usa highest paid boxers

but has never fought once in 40 fights on ppv and the biggest fight in all those 40 fights he has had generated 2.5 million combined between the 2 fighters

dont need a google machine to tell me that you beleive that wilder v joshua will generate 40 times more in the usa than wilder v ortiz. in the usa.

 

What the fighters do individually doesn't matter in this context...this is two huge, supremely athletic guys, with charisma, knockout power, and are undefeated. You can look at both and assume they are bad men, it's "the fight"/"the event" that would sell, not the individual fighters per se'. So no Wilder won't do huge numbers against Breazeale or anyone else for that matter, nor would Joshua (in the US), but they could do huge numbers against each other which could open the door for one or either to become breakout stars. An undisputed unified HW Champ would be someone that advertisers would want to associate with early because of the potential upside on the backend.

 

I know what sells in America...these are two larger than life violent men with lots of charisma, with historical significance, and would be fighting for a prize that is still regarded as important. It would be a star studded event with every major celebrity on the West Coast in attendance. These guys would be on Sportscenter and pushed hard through American media, which would force the casual fan to look and when you look both pass the eye test. They both have a highlight real of knockouts that would wow anyone...the event would sell and sell big. Assuming they both participate in marketing and development.

 

And you think Wilder is fine having only one belt?

 

They should do a co main event in us to build the fight like Hopkins dlhoya. This would build big hype in us.

 

Look, there's just no way this is a $100m fight. Look at the Wlad fight and compare the purses. It will do similar PPV numbers and gate money, but generate more on the back-end.

Joshua gets about a $25m purse from this fight.


As for it being a $100m fight in the US - I just don't believe this fight sells as a big PPV in the US to begin with, but even if it did, it isn't making enough to give the fighters $100m between them.

Let's assume, and be extremely generous, that the fight generates a gate of $30m after expenses (making it the third biggest in boxing history ahead of GGG v Canelo). It would need to sell $170m worth of PPV, to cover the networks' share and leave a pot for the fighters. Lets even assume it makes $40m of that from the UK selling 1.5m PPVs. It would still need to sell over 1.7m PPVs at $80 each to get close.

Anyone who thinks any of those figures are achievable is a lunatic. It just isn't possible. This is a 200-300k buy PPV in the US, at best.