What is better a better fight for pac? campbell/guzman winner or hatton?

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  1. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    I wanna hear your thoughts and please vote, I for one would like to see pac against campbell/guzman winner more than hatton. Think about this way, sure theres a lot of boxers who move up in weight and win titles, perhaps about 9 but how many boxers have ever unified the belts? Unified as in holding all the belts of 4 major organizations, WBC/WBO/WBA/IBF.

    Hatton would do pac more money, but what does a real pac fan want for pac? money or legacy? Sure hatton adds to legacy but surely unifying all the belts in 1 division is more of a legacy. And a unified title fight would also bring a lot of money so don't give the bull**** that campbell or guzman would not bring anything to the table after all its 4 titles we are talking about.

    Some of you fellow pacfans would say that hatton brings more money, but what about it? We're surely not getting anything out of that money:rofl, pac has a few years left in him i believe and while he's still at his best i think it would be better to grab the chance. I'm not saying i don't like the hatton fight but what i'm saying is its very hard to unify the belts and i give juan diaz props for making it easier, and this opportunity comes once in a lifetime. Not every division has unified belts out there. Most champs these days tend to just keep their titles and fight some domestic bum.

    I hope you did read my long post, and please both, express your thoughts and opinions.
     
  2. psychopath

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    Campbell/Guzman winner.

    In my opinion Pac needs to justify his stay at 135. A unification would be best . . . before a Hatton fight.
     
  3. CJLightweight

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    please do post and explain your votes people:D
     
  4. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't agree that being the undisputed champ at 135 would do more for his legacy, if he beats hatton the recongised number 1 at 140 then that will move him higher up the atg ranks. Then he could either move back down and fight the top guy at 135 or try and get pbf back for a super fight, obviously this all depends on if he wins or not.
     
  5. SHADOW BOX

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    I would like to see Pac beat the best at 135 like he did at 130, and then take on the 140 pounders. In reply to your post though, I would like to see Pac fight Hatton first before Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Katsidis, and maybe even JMM. The reason why is this: If Pac fights and beats one of the top guys at 140 it will boost up his legacy much more than if he unifies at 135. He will then have beaten future hall of famers at 130, 135, and 140. Hatton is going to retire soon and he is a future hall of famer and arguably the best at 140lbs. After he fights Hatton, he can then demolish the rest at 135 and turn his legacy into a legend.
     
  6. dangerousity

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    If its one or the other, definitely Hatton. He would be conquering a former undisputed JWW champ and the current Ring & Lineal champ (and IBF champ should he beat Paulie) at 140lb.

    Campbell wont really do much for Pac's legacy. Few people beat Nate before so whats so special about Pac beating him? At least with Hatton, only PBF has done it so far. Guzman would do alot more for Pac, a 3 weight division champ, considered by many of the purist as elite. Beating him would also help Pac's case alot in H2H mythical matchup where every boxer is picked to outboxed him.
     
  7. 0-1

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    I say definitely the Campbell-Guzman winner, because in being a multi-division champ it really matters if a fighter just grabs the easiest belt he can find as he passes through, or if he really conquers the division. That fight offers him the chance to conquer lightweight whilst having only two fights there.

    He should fight Hatton later, once he's unified lightweight, and Hatton has beaten Malignaggi (if Hatton can manage it).
     
  8. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton then the Campbell/Guzman winner.

    Normally i advocate clearing up the division you are in first but it's pretty clear to see that Hatton is on the decline (how much and how fast i do not know yet). So if Hatton wins the Mallinaggi fight then take him next.

    If Pac wait's untill after the Guzman/Campbell fight and then beats Hatton afterwards some people might say that he only beat a faded Hatton and this may deminish Pac's accomplishment.

    If he fights Hatton first and defeats him he can then fight for and unify the title's at 135 because he will be an even bigger name and anyone will happilly step into the ring with him just for the pay day alone.
     
  9. dangerousity

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    But whats better for Pac's legacy overall, beating the best at 135lb or beating the best at 140lb? Its not like Pac will skip 135lb in order to cherrypick the weakest link at 140lb. Hes going for the man there, surely more reward is given to getting the man at the higher weight class and Hatton is elite.
     
  10. psychopath

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    Talking of legacy . . . there will be more questions and antagonism if he'll only have one fight at 135 then immediately go up to the next weight. AND TAKE NOTE . . . it's better that he establishes his name at 135 first before a money fight with Hatton . . . because even if he loses to Hatton . . . there's no shame in fighting 135 lbers again. he's not gonna be staying at 140 anyway.
     
  11. CJLightweight

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    once pac moves to 140 would he have problems moving back and forth 135-140-135 again? Surely he's only moving at 140 for the sole purpose of hatton.

    And like i said how about the belts, the unified belts may not last that long, we don't know what would happen in the near future but lets say for example guzman wins against campbell and vacates 1 title because of the fees and mandatories, the chance of unification would also slip by. Hatton on the other hand would still be there and he'll wait for a mega fight with pac
     
  12. rydersonthestorm

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    would he though if pac takes to long he willl just fight odlh and retire.
     
  13. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    its rare for fighters these days to hold 4 and all major titles, how many fighters have done that? even RJJ hasn't done it, hopkins is one, hagler? It would be like a guiness record. Its not who nate is, i don't even care even if its david diaz who is holding 3 belts right now. Its the acheivement he would get.
     
  14. CJLightweight

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    joe calzaghe is one but he vacated the IBF
     
  15. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think the weight will be to much of an issue if Pac's moves between 135-140.

    As for your other point it's valid in terms of what the record books will say but true fan's and more importantly Pac himself will know it does not matter if he doesn't hold all four belts at once.

    If Pac faced the Guzman/Campbell winner and won but in between said winner had to give up 1 or 2 of the belts then yes, technically the record book's will have no mention of Pac unifying the lightweight division. However, like i said, we all know and Pac will know that he really is the unified lightweight champ.


    Im getting a bit confused here anyway. I thought Casamayor was the linear lightweight champ. Could some correct me if im wrong please?