what is dariusz michalczewski's legecy???

I would have to have a think about it before I ranked him all time but one of the best lightheavyweights in the late 90's earily norties, no doubt.

A lot of americans seriously underrate him and they view him with a double standard because though he didnt fight out of Europe, Roy didnt fight out of America either.
He beat quite a few very good fighters and he had a jab I would put down as one of the best ever for his weight.

 

He gains points for beating some very good fighters - but loses some for refusing to travel, and vacating genuine belts and defending one which many people (including me) don't recognise.

 

Thats a bit weak mate.

The belts are just trinkets, they are only as strong as the champ. I mean Dell Valle and I think Guthrie won the titles he vacated, how the hell could you consider them better. He beat the lineal champ which is generally always better than any of the belts.

Also the travelling thing works both ways. He was a popular fighter in Germany, earning good coin, same as roy was in the U.S. Does that mean Roy loses points for not fighting out of the U.S and for that matter any fighter who never traveled outside of the states??

 

Imo he is, like RJJ, a Top10 lhw of all-time but in the lower parts of the Top10. Both beat nearly the same fighters in their division but never fought each other which hurts both. DM also won a cw belt but dropped down again to campaign at lhw. Very good fighter, would give any lhw a tough fight.

 

He's the one 'responsible' for Roy not having the lineal title at LHW. The Ring giving the title to Jones was a joke: Dariusz became the lineal champ defeating Virgil Hill and unifying all titles but the WBC... not undisputed I guess, but Roy picked up the WBA and the IBF only after Michalczewski was stripped of them...

The division wasn't that good back that but Michalczewski faced everyone inlc. Griffin, Rocchigiani, other top contenders. Also, it's often overlooked, he's a 2-division world champion.

Jones and Dariusz not fighting was one of the worst thing in boxing in the last 25 years. Michalczewski was really, really good, I always thought Jones would win but in a really tough fight...

 

Outside of Europe he wont have much of one...Many will say that Jones wouldnt fight him but the truth is DM often refused to fight other top fighters....And no he didnt beat alot of good fighters. He beat Hill, Griffen and Rocco the first time...All were very questionable. The rest of the people that he fought were pushing it to be B level fighters.

DM was a decent enough fighter that I think would have lost to alot of fighters in and around his weight bring his hayday. Good solid fighter, shakey HOF and for sure not an ATG

 

Legacy? What legacy?

 

:good Thats right. DM was the lineal champ and it is a shame that the fight with roy did not happen. But i cannot understand why DM did not vacate the WBO belt to keep the IBF and WBA belts.

Thats not correct. He got the WBO CW belt in 1994. That belt was rubbish in this time.

 

That´s bs, with the exception of Jones and Maske he fought everybody in the division. And DM always wanted to fight Maske but Maske´s management refused the challange. Grffin and Hill were very clear wins, he lost the first fight against Rocchigiani but defeated him clearly in the second fight. In his time the only one on his level was Jones. And if Jones is rated Top10 at lhw than so is DM, they fought the same opponents with the same results.

 

It still is

 

Darius's refusing to come the the USA hurt his legacy a lot more then Roys refusal to come to germany IMO, much more.



Thats not to say that he wasn't a great fighter, but RJJ will always be remembered as a legend, whereas IMO years from now Darius will be seen on boxrec or something as a linear title holder who never left germany and didn't fight roy jones.



Unfair? certainly. But very, very likely IMO





Sage

 

Well, maybe that happens in the states but not over here. Here it´s just the other way round. Funny though and equally sad.

 

I sum up Dm's legacy like so. . .

Who is Darius Michalczewski?

 

A man whose career was built around maintaining his unbeaten record. Giving up two thirds of the 175 title to defend a bogus belt was part of the ploy for achieving this.