what is dariusz michalczewski's legecy???

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

DM vs Virgil= 118-110 117-112 116-113
DM vs Hall= 98-93 97-93 97-93

Isnt it amazing how some people will just plain MAKE **** UP for the sake of argument???

You have no cred there hudson.

dabox · Jul 26, 2008

he did not beat all the best in this weightclass but then again lots of great champions don't beat everyone in their weightclass.

if he fought now, i am sure he would be much more popular here,

you gotta love that jab of his..

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

dabox said:

he did not beat all the best in this weightclass but then again lots of great champions don't beat everyone in their weightclass.

if he fought now, i am sure he would be much more popular here,

you gotta love that jab of his..
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Euro fighters have higher standards set.

Standars are lowered when it comes to discrediting someone.(He lost to Gonzalez)Do we bring up Tyson's final fight's.Ali's final fight's...etc?

sugarngold · Jul 26, 2008

1lehudson said:

Im back to finish up my post.

Reggie Johnson Who for most of DM run was atop of the weightclass, most people that have followed his career would tell you that Johnson only REAL lost came at the hands of Jones. Most people felt that he beat Castro TWICE, Toney, Tarver. And he did beat Steve Collins and Julio Ceser Gonzalaz who beat DM. Johnson won the IBF belt by knocking out William Guthrie...HMM were have we heard that name??? Thats right folks it was the same Guthrie that DM gave up the IBF title so he didnt have to fight...In his first meeting with the IBF after taking the titles from Hill, DM was told that he would have to defend vs Guthrie, DM told the IBF NO he was going to fight Nicky Piper, the IBF was going to let the fight happen, but the made the fight between Guthrie and Darrin Allen for the interim title. Guthrie who was the number contender then went to court and stopped the fight ordering the IBF the only US based abc group to uphold the promise that Guthrie who was the number one contenders for almost 2 years by that time, would fight for the title in his next fight...The IBF then stripped DM and made the Interim title a full title. Guthrie won vs Allen, lost his title to Johnson who lost it to Jones.

David Telesco Not really that much here. David was a very good fighter, that was better then most of the guys that DM fought..Telesco was a very big very strong fighter that would have been much more then a handful for DM and a fight that DM stood a very good chance of losing.

Eric Harding Seen by many as the third best fighter at 175 for a while from 1997 to his lost at the hand of Jones in 2000. Along the way he beat Tarver and Griffin.

Then there was Mike McCullum, Otis Grant, and Clinton woods.

Now lets take a look at the fighters that DM did actaully fight that Jones fought.

Derrick Harmon was dominated by Jones lost every round until he was stopped in the 11th. Vs DM he was winning every round and dominating DM until he was caught and stopped in the 11th round...Jones was Bashed for this fight, it was called one of DM greatest wins two years after Jones toyed with him.

Montell Griffin won a DQ over jones on his back, was took out in a few seconds in a rematch..Vs DM Griffen was winning the fight easy, got caught with a good shot Wobbled back Dm jumped on him landed maybe two of about ten shots the fight was stopped, in the FOURTH round its one thing if he was taking a beatting but he was giving the beatten.

Virgil Hill Knocked out by Jones with ONE shot to the body, hills only knockout lose. DM was in the fight of his life with Hill. Many felt that Hill one the fight. Im not one of them but I do know that it really could have gone either way, it was a close fight, no matter what some of the people are saying now.

Richard Hall took one of the worst beatting in the history of boxing vs Jones, got dropped about a hundred times in that fight Jones was Bashed heavily for taking this fight. DM was in a close fight with Hall in the first fight with yet another iffy stoppage, in a fight were DM was in worst shape then Hall and Hall was the one stopped. Had to have a rematch..DM once again was have a very tough time but pulled it with without question

Julio Cesar Gonzalez Beat the **** out of DM, after having the **** beat out of him by Jones...Gonzlalez also lost three other fights to guys on the list of those that DM didnt fight that Jones did.

I know this was a pretty long post, but it is pretty good information that should but isnt really talked about when this subject comes up...DM fans would have you think that DM and Jones went right down the list and beat all the top fighters....Jones did do that DM didnt, he picked and choose the ones that he would fight and alwas seemed to pick the easier ones on Jones list...Keep in mind that only Hill fought DM first...All the rest were jones leftovers:good
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Excellent post.

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

sugarngold said:

Excellent post.
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Now ask him to verify his sources!

He ran off the last time!

Cobra33 · Jul 26, 2008

I'm a Hill fan and Dm beat the crap out of Hill plain and simple.

And DelValle wasn't robbed against Hill-he didn't do enough to warrant a win.Maybe if he had stopped trying to load up on thae straight left and been busier he could have beaten Hill.

Imperial1 · Jul 26, 2008

sugarngold said:

I sum up Dm's legacy like so. . .

Who is Darius Michalczewski?
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hit the nail right on the head ..

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

Cobra33 said:

I'm a Hill fan and Dm beat the crap out of Hill plain and simple.

And DelValle wasn't robbed against Hill-he didn't do enough to warrant a win.Maybe if he had stopped trying to load up on thae straight left and been busier he could have beaten Hill.
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People make **** up without watching fights and little kiddies buy into it.Hudson is repeating what he heard from 1 person and goes with it.

Everytime i ask for a source he just plain dissapears.

Im willing to put the DM vs Harmon fight on youtube just to show how full of **** this kid really is.

Instead of talking about DM it always turns into a RJJ comparison.

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

Imperial1 said:

hit the nail right on the head ..
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We know he aint black or american enough to get credit.

vargasfan1985 · Jul 26, 2008

can anyone tell me what fights he was supposeively helped by fighting in hsi backyard? and also if he had hbo aired fights?

i know the first hall fight, to me, was legit. he kept getting that ram rod jab in his face over and over and the ref stopped it. the griffen fight looked a little pre mature. i mean that right ROCKED griffen but he block the next 10 follow up shots and was stopped with 1 second in the round.

Imperial1 · Jul 26, 2008

PolishPummler said:

We know he aint black or american enough to get credit.
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Nah he was a protected fighter race has nothing to do with it ..If Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe aren't proof enough of how much fighters from the UK are embraced well then I don't know what to tell u ..

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

Imperial1 said:

Nah he was a protected fighter race has nothing to do with it ..If Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe aren't proof enough of how much fighters from the UK are embraced well then I don't know what to tell u ..
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atsch

1lehudson · Jul 26, 2008

PolishPummler said:

Now ask him to verify his sources!

He ran off the last time!
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I have never ran from anything I have said on any site....And as far as you posting scores to prove that a fight wasnt close...Well I think that proves your clueless...One of the judges in the fight with Gonzalez gave the fight to DM and no one thought that DM won more then 3 rounds maybe four if you were a huge fan.

Imperial1 · Jul 26, 2008

PolishPummler said:

atsch
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ps DM was still protected !:hey

PolishPummler · Jul 26, 2008

Imperial1 said:

ps DM was still protected !:hey
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