What is Deontay Wilder trying to accomplish?

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad had tons and tons more experience than Wilder, don't act as if he didn't. Looking at both their resumes Wilders is actually better at the point of 29 fights. And I didn't realize there was a time limit on how long you should develop a fighter. When was that rule implemented my friend?
     
  2. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Keep in mind that Wilder had basically no amateur career so he's used( is using) his early professional career the same way most people use their amateur career...trying to find his identity as a fighter, hone the skills he'll need to complement his physical tools, gain the experience he'll need to successfully cope with the inevitable situational problems he'll encounter as a professional and , ultimately, to realize his full potential as a fighter...whether that means gatekeeper, fringe contender, perennial top contender, on/off belt holder or HW overlord.
     
  3. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you completely leave out the amateurs. Wlad had a large amateur background, Wilder had not. He is doing slowly at the pro´s to compensate that.
     
  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    e-x-a-c-t-l-y!!!
     
  5. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's just desperately trying to not be knoccked out before entering in a final pay day big fight.

    Exactly like Khan.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    His team are looking to cash out with a title shot. He'll do what Arreola did, KO journeymen until he peaks some interest in the US fans and then get a title shot and cash out.

    It's a shame he has been so poorly handled he has the physical tools but with his current progression he'll never reach his potential.
     
  7. Maxsplit

    Maxsplit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kevin 'Kingpin' Johnson tweeted yesterday that Wilder had actively refused to fight him for his next fight even though he has no opponent.

    He was pretty p**sed off.

    Why would Wilder not fight Johnson? Tyson Fury and Tor Hamer have beat Johnson. Surely he is EXACTLY the kind of opponent Wilder SHOULD be fighting :patsch

    One can only assume it is the fact that Johnson has never been dropped, let alone stopped in his extensive amateur or pro career (including vs Klitschko) has a great jab and KO power.

    Wilder obviously IS hiding an issue.

    I think we all know what it is too :yep
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Fury had a relatively short amateur career himself.. Yet he has stepped in and beaten the likes of Cunningham, Chisora, and KJ.. and is set to fight Haye.his resume shits all over Wilders. If Fury can step in with good competition, why can't Wilder :think
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Doesn't surprise me.. Mitchell also ducked a fight with KJ!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coo8Niqjaw :lol: :rofl We all know what would have happened had Mitchell stepped in with KJ in 2011! he would have been exposed as the hype job that he is a year before banks did. some of the same people hyping Wilder now were the same ones hyping Mitchell before he got exposed.
     
  10. beast boxer

    beast boxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder is making the sport of boxing laughable, Fury knocked this guy out in half the amount of fights Wilder is going to be fighting him in. if Wilder wins in under 5 rounds people are going to be saying he is better than Fury, but he isn't because Fury fought him in the 15 fight wilder fighting him in 30, fury was 22 I think when they fought wilder is 29. this just proves how useless and limited wilder really is, and his trainers and manager, promoter obviously think he is worthless as well and they are just trying to cash out with his KO record but soon they will have to take the risk and step up his opposition because people are bored!
     
  11. beast boxer

    beast boxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury beat that fat ******* kevin johnson
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I don't know what people see in Wilder... So he knocks these stiffs out. Butterbean also knocked out poor competition with ease, but was schooled by 53 year old Larry Holmes! All Wilder has is a right hand, he's so limited! sure power alone can beat weak competition, but against world class competition it doesn't work unless there is skill to go along with it(something that Wilder doesn't have) Wilder is going to get exposed badly as soon as he steps in with somebody decent... It might even happen before that.... he's so crude and fragile than even the stiffs he steps in have a chance at KO'ing him.
     
  13. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. Wilder managed to luck his way into a bronze medal (at heavy, not superheavy) but he was extremely extremely raw. He's been learning since then..... in addition to putting on weight and getting used to fighting pro heavyweights. He's still hella raw and needs at least another year before stepping up. Idk if he ever fights Wlad.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Hey, it's a big freaking deal to surviving family members of the late Clark. :bart
     
  15. BlackBrenny

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    Either he's a top ten fighter who may be the future of US heavyweight boxing, or he is still practically a raw novice who has to still fight stiffs 5 years into his pro career to make up for lost time in the amateurs, you can't have it both ways.

    furthermore, you can't compare Wlads first 30 with Wilders first 30, because Wlad wasn't being hyped to the moon when he turned pro like Wilder is.

    furthermore, Bryant Jennings had SEVENTEEN amateur fights, and his resume absolutely shits on Wilders


    enough with the excuses, Wilders record is a joke