What is Deontay Wilder's legacy?

Oh come on, he was prepared. Or did Wilder somehow figure out how to box against him? Or Did he leave his chin in the gym as well?

 

Exactly how I see it. Wilder didn't have the greatest resume but he gave us great fights, great excitement and showed great heart

 

Seriously - first fight he was rusty as ****, how is that not poorly prepared?

And it's not much easier to catch a bloke that's gassed?!
And not much easier to connect something big at that point?!

Come on... There's a reason those KD's happened late in the first bout.

Let's not pretend that Fury was remotely close to the best he could be in either the first or third fights... And what a difference in the fight he actually did get on top of things for, eh?

 

Deontay Wilder helped bring a lot of excitement back to the heavyweight division. Particularly in the USA.

He will be remembered a lot more positively in years to come. Typically big punchers get remembered more fondly. Examples are Earnie Shavers, David Tua and Tommy Morrison

 

Power and heart cannot be questioned bud for sure

 

I heard Fury had the wrong socks for the first fight. He pre-fight meal was a little undercooked. Too much pepper.

Come on....

Fury was well prepared. He came in in good shape.

He even had a tune-up fight before the first Wilder fight.

He tried to box Wilder and eventually got caught. Only a long count miracle saved him that day though I give him all the credit in the world for eventually getting back up.

To his credit. He fought a very different fight in the second fight. Embracing a different style and strategy.

It's hard to say Fury was in better shape or sharper in the 2nd and 3rd fights.

It's more he saw something at the end of the first fight and exploited it in fights 2 and 3.

Even with that, he got put on his buttocks a few times.

Fury has grit and a good ring IQ.

 

True.
wilder has his own skills which people don’t recognise as a skill “setting up a ko shot and pulling it off”

most ko artists have similarly not been commended for their skill of creating a ko, the work behind the set up, the breakdown of the fighter and the time/dedication to develop the power shots. Often it gets seen as “lucky punch”, but it’s not luck if it’s the same guy repeatedly doing it.

even Mike Tyson who is now highly praised, is often labelled a power puncher, but there’s so much more in it than just that. It’s not just about landing a lucky punch, or everyone would be working on that.
Also, luck doesn’t discriminate, so it can’t be the same guys striking lucky every time either.

 

If you think he wasn't ring rusty and very unfit in #1 then you're not living in the real world and I'm done, it's impossible to have a conversation if such simple and irrefutable things can't be agreed on - whether you're just mistaken or deliberately misrepresenting those fights I don't know and it doesn't really matter to me either way.

 

When you learn a sport, you are taught/learn according to your style.
Wilder could never be taught to fight like usyk or bivol, if he tries he would be nowhere.
Similarly, AJ could never be taught to fight like Ali, when he tried he was poor.

do you think he’s gone from the driving seat of his lorry to the gym and not learned anything, but still won bronze medal and achieved more in his first 2years of amateur boxing than Tyson fury did in his whole life as an amateur?

then both turned pro at the same time and both won world titles in the same time. All without learning?

he learned to his natural abilities and strengths. If he focused on getting his footwork like Ali (which it never would be) he wouldn’t have developed other areas.

Sports people don’t spend their time focusing on making their weaknesses turn elite. They focus on turning their strengths into elite level.

like Bruce Lee said, be afraid of the guy who practices 1 kick a thousand times, than the guy who practices 1000 kicks once.

 

I think it was the wrong socks. The wrong socks can really throw off a professional fighting man.

He had a tune-up fight before Wilder and was in good shape. He didn't gas out. Just got clipped by a fast guy with good power and long arms.

It happens.

 

Funny thing is, I heard wilder came in under prepared for fight 2 & 3. Was tension in camp and issues with his coach in 2, then 3 he had Scott who is useless.
so could fury only beat an under prepared, no coach wilder?

 

I heard his socks were bad too, apparently it was wilders fault that fury had bad socks on.

 

I think you’re doing that. Your hatred for wilder cannot see past anything.

fury had 2 warm up fights to get rid of his ring rust didn’t he? How many fights does it take?
People used to just get 1.

 

It’s clear and evident he was fit as he got up and continued throwing shots, what an engine he has.