What is Froch's best win?

Nonsense. Dirrell is a class technical boxer i think your chatting **** if you said the man had no heart i would have to agree with you..

 

Official win Dirrell but i had him losing that fight!

 

****ing blind

 

true if you consider wining a WBA MW title ****...not the case of Pascal,Dirrell,Taylor or Abraham who won literally **** at 168 and never beaten anyone at 168

 

no,i'm saying he has done **** at 168 so far,he once beaten Victor Oganov about 4 years ago and that's his accomplishment.you can't judge a fighter by his potential here..cause all we hear 24/7 on esb is Bute hasn't beat anyone yet...well,neither has Dirrell or Froch

 

bute as just been feeding off frochs leftovers, if magee counted years back when froch beat him his stock has surely dropped when bute fought him not that long ago, same goes for the old road warrior but both are still relativley decent imo just saying the were more war torn once they got to bute

 

how's that?is Berrio or Andrade Froch leftovers?Froch has never beated accomplished 168 fighters like that,whenever he raised his standards he lost,just like he will now

 

Taylor was the most complete and skilled fighter Froch fought even if he wasn't at his best weight and in his prime.

 

Dunno: Taylor, Direll, Pascal and Abraham are all quality wins. Hard to pick one among them.

 

Not true. Direll was the first man to beat Abraham who many people had as tournament favourite. Just because Abraham's stuck went through the floor afterwards it doesn't mean that wasn't a great accomplishment.

 

I would say Taylor. Still very highly rated at the time and the favourite. Past his best but still a very good fighter. Froch went into his backyard and beat the odds with the best comeback of his career with what was an extremely risky first title defence. Showed what froch was all about, most fighters would have taken an easy first defence in front of their fans in order to celebrate, especially after the battle froch went through to win it.

As for the other fights, pascal was unproven and probably was a bit green, undeniably talented and a great effort from him but I don't think he was as good all round as Taylor was, plus froch had home advantage.
Dirrel- terrible fight that did nothing for either mans reputation, dirrell probably deserved to win but he stunk out the joint so bad i don't care that he got robbed. While dirrells very talented I don't think he has the intangibles to be a great fighter and h2h he's overrated imo.
Abraham- great performance, no one expected it and froch did it better than dirrell or ward. But in hindsight, Abraham is very beatable without home advantage.
Johnson- still a dangerous, solid fighter but limited and past it. Gave froch a far closer fight than he did bute and it's not like froch ruined him. Still a good respectable win but not a standout.
Magee- I like him and it was a good scrap, but he's a bit below world class. More of a domestic level win than a world level win.

 

As a Froch fan it can be easy to overlook facts

Pascal - hadnt done anything at SMW and wasnt a top SMW
Taylor - was 1-2 going in against Froch and had no SMW resume
Dirrell - had done nothing at SMW and still hasnt
Abraham - was coming in off a loss and I was shocked so many thought AA would do anything against a SMW. AA didnt have any big MW wins really
Johnson - was a SMW journeyman who has lost more at SMW than won and not beaten any top SMWs

Some fighters cant compete in certain divisions and I think Pascal and Johnson fall into that catagory.

What is forgotten on 3 of those victories though, is that Froch was fighting away and did fight 5 out of 6 fights away which I think is draining.
I always felt Froch was slightly past his best when he won his first world title. Froch is nearly 35 now and many top SMWs tend to be faded at that time or retired.
I think Frochs best win was probably B Magee as Magee has a better resume and accomplished more at SMW than Abraham, Johnson, Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal. Now Im not convinced Magee would beat all of them, but he has done more at SMW and is now WBA int champ.
Talor was a good win also, though I felt Froch was being outboxed before that sensational finish

 

Pascal is the best win, cause he took his 0 and Pascal went on to beat almost everyone at LHW including the undeafted "man" for the ring belt.

The Taylor win is good cause he went to the States in his first defence and that takes balls.

The Dirrell win is OK but Dirrell hasn't done **** and looks like a waste of talent.

The Kessler fight was his best, but he lost a close fight.

Johnson is OK

He only won 3 rounds against Ward but he looked the fresher man at the end and I think he (and Kessler) are the best 2 fights out there for Ward at SMW.

 

are you saying that was a prime pascal? if so you don't know **** and if not then what the **** you arguing for.

pascal has done **** all at 168 and froch just won on razor close win vs a nobody. Pascal ain't **** and doesn't have great skills. He beat a half a sleep dawson and fools be on his nuts like snickers. Dawson ****s pascal up if he comes to fight. Old hopkins beats him twice in a row.

pascal ain't **** fool!. He got no defense.

pascal might not be the true definition of a green fighter but he was still young and learning and so was froch. Pascal was defo not at his best and you can't argue with that.

You are ****ing stupid mate, just because his style hasn't changed doesn't mean anything. His style wont change because he's developing you stupid idiot. Has khan's style changed since he got KO'd by prescott? has ortiz style changed since the maidana loss? they still fight the same style but there smarter and physically better. Pascal fights like a roy jones and those are his own words, that sort of style defo isn't gone a change from green to seasoned. You think he can just switch his style and start fighting like hopkins or something.

 

The guy was waffling out his hate for in a thread yesterday too