What is it about these Colombians and their punch?

Before they leave Columbia they comete against each other to see who the best is. BEcause the country is poor they dont have the money to train properly , the skill level is poor and when the skill level is poor the strongest, hardest punchers come out victorious.

 

Well i am Colombian and have lived there for many years before i moved to the USA so i'll try to explain some of the things i saw in the boxing gyms.

Colombian trainers are VERY limited as many of you probably already know and do not put so much emphasis on technique because they are so obsessed with KOing their opponent as fast as possible and do not work on a plan B C and so on. Power is very important for them but as we all know power will only get you so far.

Most of the Colombian fighters today like Torres, Zuniga, Urango, Berrio, Prescott etc. ALL of them are from the coast of Colombia from cities such as Barranquilla or Monteria with the exception of Miranda who is from Buenaventura down south. Very hot places with beaches and where you will find most of the Afro-Colombians (yes there are a lot of black people in Colombia you will be amazed how people find that surprising). The legends of Colombian boxing have always been Antonio "Kid Pambele" Cervantes, Miguel "happy" Lora and Rodrigo "Rocky" Valdez well known for his fights with Argentinean ATG Carlos Monzon. All of these are from the coast too. Trainers in the coast put a lot of emphasis on finishing the fight as soon as possible. That is why the Colombian fighters today when put against World Class fighters always come up a bit short. Example Miranda against Pavlik and Abraham, Urango with Ricky Hatton and Torres with Cotto.

I am from Medellin a city more central in the country in the mountains where there are still some black Colombians but not as much as in the coast. I boxed in the local gyms(where i have to say the amateur boxing program is very poor in the entire country) technique is way more important around here. We look up to Mexicans like Julio Cesar Chavez and american boxers like Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Hearns and so on. We know what makes you grat is to be more versatile. I fought 4 times as an amateur in Colombia won three of them all due to the more technical trainers we had in Medellin. I found the fighters from Medellin and the capital from Bogota very well rounded in skills but non of the top Colombian professionals are from these cities.( Well i already am an amateur here in the states so maybe ill be the first one LOL).

Everytime i see someone like Torres or Prescott or Miranda, i just say to myself with a little more technical finesse and more training on fundamentals these guys could be very dangerous. But i honestly feel the Colombian trainers can only take you so far. I wish boxing could become more popular in Colombia because there is a lot of talent there just that everyone prefers football (soccer) than boxing.

 

Interesting observations and the 'coastal' geography reminds me of two other possible factors. Higher than average protein (Marisco) diet and the Cimarrons of Colombia and Panama have an extremely valiant history who's direct descendants are still most often found in pockets along the coasts.

 

Well it would seem the boxing culture in Colombia favors punchers over other types of fighters, so that would pretty easily explain why so many punchers come out of Colombia. As far as why most of them don't get chin checked before leaving Colombia, I'd imagine it has to do with the level of opposition they face at home. I call it the Colombian record, most of these guys are heavily padded before leaving South America.

 

they probably punch so hard cos of all the work their parents did. do they have plently of lumberjacks in columbia? i know lumberjacks can pack a punch. also the place my family/grandparents are from, they were all lumberjacks.

also russians are known to be very heavy handed punchers. thhey do plenty of graft in that country.

being a puncher is in your genes, however you can still be a ko artist if you learn the right technique, although you wont have heavy hands.

 

I think Torres and Prescott are from the same gym (well Torres was fom there to start off with)

And Urango looks to be a puncher with a chin, and to think he was a World champ after 16 fights, he doesn't seem to have been overtly protected. He lasted the distance with Hatton, and has seemed to have gotten better since then.

I thinking he's gonna' spark Njgoudjo late, which is a shame as I feel sorry for Herman, he's been on the end of two shitty decisions (though I admit to not having seen the Castillo fight, only read about, I still had him 115-113 over Paulie)

 

Shitty trainers

 

I'd like to take my risk with Shakira.

 

You need to post more often.

 

Yeah, and what is it about this place they call ASIA where they have all these martial arts people? What's with that?

To be serious it could be a lot of genetics, and also life style. Mexicans are tough because a lot were forced to be tough. Russians are forced to be huge, and dominant (literally).
It's a sign of how things are going really. Kind of like how there's very few white americans in boxing. They just don't have much reason to fight for so they don't. Black people in America have it harder (getting jobs, etc) so they are also forced to fight, and that's why you see so many blacks. The blacks are kind of wearing away though, and more foreigners because black people are having it better here IMO. Fighting to put food on your table, and fighting for sport are two different things.

 

I try my best to make good contributions:good

 

I actually noticed that also. Ricardo Torres, Bredis Presctott, Juan Urango, that Colombian fighter that pulled off the upset over that hot cruiser weight prospect on ESPN(who's style resembled Jersey Joe Walcott) , Pantera Miranda ect. These fighters can truly punch!

 

Well this pretty much answers the whole thread.:good

 

interesting thread decebal, colombian power punchers are the most noticable around these days.