What is Jermain Taylor doing wrong?

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  1. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't completely write Taylor off yet as he is still showing shades of greatness in his fights. Its just as if towards the end he loses his confidence and collapses when his opponent comes on strong. Pavlik and Froch are great examples of this. What does he need to do to get back to where he was when he fought Hopkins?
     
  2. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    He must not be doing enough cardio.
     
  3. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Raelise he's a boxer not a fighter.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    its his stamina. it just plain sucks

    Fights that Taylor gassed in:

    Hopkins vs Taylor I
    Taylor vs Ouma
    Taylor vs Pavlik I
    Taylor vs Pavlik II
    Taylor vs Lacy
    Taylor vs Froch

    And I'm sure i'm missing a few.
     
  5. 1-Ton

    1-Ton Walking in the Light Full Member

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    It is either a lack of endurance training/conditioning or just a failure to adequately pace himself in a fight. Maybe a bit of both, but I tend to think that it is the prior considering that he doesn't exactly have an overwhelming work rate.
     
  6. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    He needs to better condition himself.
     
  7. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's just not that great, and doesn't have what it takes to be great

    He's a good fighter, not a great one

    He has good, not great, handspeed

    He has good, not great, power

    He has a mediocre defense

    He has mediocre fundamentals as far as footwork and punching technique

    He has a mediocre chin

    And he doesn't have any of the intangibles that are required. His ring IQ is very low, he doesn't know how to adjust on the fly, he fades under pressure
     
  8. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think it's mental!
     
  9. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he shou stop fighting dangerous fighter at their peak....needs to study Calzaghe.

    stick to old bhop or a jones
     
  10. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He just doesn't have the ability to adjust to his opponents adjustments. he's talented but ultimately one dimensional.
     
  11. Relentless

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    he needs to learn to pace himself, from what manny steward has said he trains extremely hard, so its got to be a mental thing.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Frankly, he needs to relax more in the first half of fights. He expends too much energy and is wound too tightly early, which usually leads to him dominating, winning rounds big, and looking flashy early but inevitably fading down the stretch. He needs to learn how to do just enough to win rounds so he's not running on empty and relying on "round counting" to get through the latter stages of fights. A good puncher/finisher with superior pacing will continue to make him pay if he can't fix that.

    I don't think it's necessarily a cardio issue, so much as it is an energy management one. The unnecessary movements and tenseness he has with that amount of superficial muscle on his frame burn alot more energy, and he can't seem to compensate for that.

    He's still a quality fighter, just a bit of a frontrunner.
     
  13. Relentless

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    also he puts full force behind each combination.
     
  14. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    Almost all of this is true. Main problem is his stamina, but all these are valid criticism of him as a fighter.
     
  15. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats pretty much how i see it.Taylor looks in good shape prior to all his fights.He may well have had issues making 160,but at 168 he has no excuse's.Energy conservation should be at the forefront of his boxing strategy,he's technically sound,and has speed and power,he just seems to struggle against fighters who will go into the trenches.