What is Joe Gallagher v world level opponents? Like 0-100

It's pretty bad, some of his fighters have the ability to win like Quigg, but I think they aren't allowed to use there natural abilities enough, following under orders far too much.

Said it before and again, he gets the most out of lesser skilled fighters, as he exploits weaknesses in his fighters opponents to a certain level. At the top level though, some of his fighters just don't have the skill ability to win. That's not his fault but rather that they've been successful at the level below.

Like tonight, the difference in ability between Linares and Crolla was rather wide, hard to exploit an opponent unless they make mistakes by being silly when there have far greater ability.

 

I would agree with that. Gallagher hasn't really had a top level fighter at his disposal. We still don't know about Calum Smith even though he looks very good.

He has his flaws but at the same time you have to accept sometimes you just facing an opponent who is clearly superior.

 

Gallagher's game plans - which let's face it vary very little, fight to fight or fighter to fighter - are decent up to a certain level. But at the very highest level, marching down opponents with a high tight guard will keep fights competitive yes, but against elite talent won't get many decisions.

 

I'm not sure if I heard correctly but did Crolla say something in his interview along the lines of he got caught by counters after doing what Gallagher told him?

Gallagher is good but isn't great, I think he sees things too late, it seems to take him an age to pick up on things that look rather obvious.

I think he is one of those trainers that like to keep it as simple as possible and seems to stick to his original gameplan at all costs but sometimes you need subtle little changes and they can make all the difference.

 

Joe's gameplan seems to be rely on mistakes from the opponent. But when they don't make them and are elite like Frampton and Linares it's a flawed one.

 

Thing about Gallagher is I sometimes get the impression he has a blueprint style which he thinks all his fighters should use. Instead of looking at each fighters individual abilities and mixing things up.

The walk forward high guard can only get you so far.

 

Yea I agree, we shouldn't be too harsh though, it's taken fighters like Crolla and Liam Smith to fights they would of never been involved in otherwise.

On the other hand, fighters like Quigg, they need to be able to fight there own way. Quigg clearly has ability but it just feels like he gets stunted. The draw he had and the Frampton fight spring to mind.

Also yea, Crolla did say in his interview he got countered when trying to throw shots that Joe said. Not necessarily JGs fault, Linares is quality skill wise, but his fighters have to be able to at this level work it out themselves. Like above poster said, need those little adjustments to be made, his fighters on the whole just aren't able to do it at the moment at the higher levels.

 

Crolla looked like John Murray tonight.

 

Got zero world champs now - as others have said he's basically a British/euro level trainer but has had some good fighters and some of them have had ridiculously bad opponents (quigg's WBA reign bar a post peak Kiko and the three embarrassments Liam smith fought in his 'world title' fights), but the moment they go against a top fighter (frampton, Abraham, pedraza, Canelo) they don't have a chance because his tactics are laughably bad and predictably (don't throw anything for the first 6 rounds, his reaction when he found out he gifted the first 6 to frampton was classic) - Callum smith will also lose if he fights jack next, even groves I'd fancy and that's pretty much down to groves having the far superior trainer.

And for added lolz, he was the ring magazine trainer of the year last year. Wasn't even the best trainer last year in the greater Manchester area ffs

 

I think Gallagher is too reductive. Boxing isn't simple. You can't employ the same gameplan for every fighter. Each has his own strengths and weaknesses. Seems pretty intuitive to me. He's very good at what he does but I think he could be better if he tailored his approach to each fighter. But what do I know? I'm not Ring magazine trainer of the year.

 

I'm glad that reality is starting to dawn on British boxing fans. Joe has been ridiculously overrated in the past. Agree with everything said above. Rest man together you fit, but pretty useless at tactics. Needs to bring in new blood....someone with brains.....or his stable will collapse as fighters will simply vote with their feet. He's been exposed too many times now.

 

There the most decorated gym in the uk what you going on about Len?
If someone's better than you that's the way it is, simple

 

Quigg lost his paper belt when his trainer was telling him he was boxing brilliantly for seven rounds.
Smith flew over on the Sunday to box Alvarez because 2 of his brothers were boxing journeymen the night before and his trainer can't miss a TV opportunity.
Crolla boxed like John Murray after his trainer trained him on Skype.

 

What's wrong with Smith flying on the Sunday? 6 days before the fight should be plenty.