What is Joshua's best win since he quit against Ruiz?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slyk, Mar 14, 2024.



  1. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    I remember the fallout very clearly. It all came down to Wilder not wanting to go through with the fight because he was **** scared of getting KOed by Povetkin in Russia. He was fine fighting drugs cheat Ortiz twice in his home country, giving drugs cheat Stiverne another shot and drafting in drugs cheat Arreola at the last minute. So obviously the whole meldonium thing wasn't the real reason. But it makes a nice get out clause if you blab on about upholding the integrity of the sport loud enough while tucking your tail between your legs as you're getting the hell out of dodge.
     
  2. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nganou KO was nice
    But it doesn’t count imo
    So I’ll go with Wallin or Helenius
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Why doesn't the Ngannou fight count?
     
  4. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Ruiz win I would have to think.
     
  5. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    The moral win in the 2nd Usyk fight...
     
  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ruiz, Wallin, Hellenius are C level boxers. Ngannou wasn't even a boxer. Squeeze in two losses to Usyk and you have very poor record.

    Or was Pulev in there somewhere?
     
  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Personally I'd rate Franklin above Wallin. But I'd agree in terms of ranking it'd have to be Wallin.
     
  8. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well it's because the majority of this forum have never been concussed and repeatedly punched in the head by a 270lb professional fighter right?
     
  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because he is a novice who hasn't won a fight yet.
     
  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you understand what the fight game is? Being repeatedly punched in the head isn't an excuse for anything around here. I have never before seen a fanbase say "oh it's not his fault he quit, he got punched in the head!"

    If you've ever sparred you've had a concussion. Fighters get concussions every single fight to the point where we don't even use that word. Are you guys all just footy fans and think you get a timeout due to concussion protocol? This is a blood sport. Please stop using this word.
     
  11. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    The rematch against Ruiz.
     
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  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Otto Wallin was regarded as Top #5 by TBRB based on his previous performance against Fury and following his win over Gasiev. Many were also arguing that Whyte also ducked him to fight Fury.

    I guess he isn't rated now though, because Joshua dominated him

    He becomes crap again.
     
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  13. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends on how you look at it?

    Ruiz 2 was for the titles, but Ruiz showed up weighing 600 lbs because he never stopped the celebration after the first fight.

    Franklin did have a loss before he fought AJ, but it was a fight most people thought he won against a solid heavyweight.

    Pulev and Helenius were shot to bits. But Helenius did provide some entertainment so I heard.

    Wallin was a showcase fight to set up AJ-Wilder. It didn't workout because Parker upset the plan by beating Wilder.

    Ngannou is not a boxer.
     
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  14. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A loss to Fury and a decision win over a cruiserweight who has shown zero ability to compete in a new weight class doesn't get you top 5.

    That's insane.

    You really think it went:

    Usyk
    Fury
    Wilder
    Joshua
    ..................OTTO WALLIN?

    That means not six months ago you had Otto ranked above:

    Hrgovich
    Zhang
    Joyce
    Parker
    Dubois
    Ruiz Jr.
    Whyte
    Kabayel
    Sanchez

    Everyone who reads this, please know that this is the logic I'm dealing with with Joshua fans. It's difficult sometimes, but reason must prevail.
     
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take a breath. It's not what I think, it's what boxing writers thought. Many consider TBRB the gold standard ranking, even above Ring ratings.

    Personally, I think top 5 was silly, but I have no issues with top 10 based on the dominant display against Gassiev (who has been plying his trade at HW for a while) There have been top 10 fighters without good wins, Dominic Breazeale and recently Jared Anderson for example.

    To me, your opinion is pretty wild too, if I was to balance it against TBRBs
     
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